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RTR, RR-Track definitely has bugs and saving often has helped a lot.

 

The Getting Started thing is what I was talking about. That is where I learned about the bottom status bar where it shows the active layer. Click on the arrow and it displays the layers. Right click on a layer and you get Active, Inactive, Grayed and Hidden options.

 

I'm intrigued by Mianne because I have some IKEA stuff that goes together the same way. I think in the long run Mianne is definitely worth it. My hesitation is that I don't intend to ever move this layout.

Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ:

RTR, RR-Track definitely has bugs and saving often has helped a lot.

 

The Getting Started thing is what I was talking about. That is where I learned about the bottom status bar where it shows the active layer. Click on the arrow and it displays the layers. Right click on a layer and you get Active, Inactive, Grayed and Hidden options.

 

I'm intrigued by Mianne because I have some IKEA stuff that goes together the same way. I think in the long run Mianne is definitely worth it. My hesitation is that I don't intend to ever move this layout.

Think I'll redo the getting started in a couple days. Couldn't hurt. I think that is where I got the floor plan idea, if memory hasn't failed me again.

 

I might make my own bench work, if I knew it would never change. Then again I really like the Mianne stuff.  Never changing would shed a new light on things though.

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Originally Posted by Matt Kirsch:

No problem putting two Lionchief sets on the same track. The whole point of the system is so you can do that without any special wiring.

 

The power is either from a constant-voltage DC power supply, or an AC transformer set to 100% output (less to limit the speed of the train if so desired).

Matt,

 

Do you know anything about the power packs supplied with the sets? Or power requirements for each set?  How many sets can be run from 1 set's power pack? If you can use 2 of them to power 1 track and multiple trains? I'm curious as well and would probably help philipms also.  Any more info you could provide would be appreciated.

Here's a thread of a huge club layout where I believe they are simply putting cork roadbed on top of plywood. I didn't read everything to see what track they are using and don't know how quite it will be.

https://ogrforum.com/t...93#23815137712411893

 

Here is a club layout in Scottsdale where they use Woodland Scenics (I think) rubber roadbed on top of a "lattice" made out of 1/2" ABS/HDPE (fake wood). I can vouch for how quiet this is. Unfortunately, as near as I can tell, the "wood" is super expensive. They cut 2" strips, turn them in the side and add spacers to make the lattice. This stuff really bends nice and it's sturdy. I would like to try this, but I'd have to use plywood strips. They use Atlas track and Ross switches.

http://pandprr.com/newpandprr/...cember_7_2010.html#0

 

This is also a great thread to "read" and view the photos, there's a wealth of info.

https://ogrforum.com/t...date-01302013?page=1

 

Another hint is to start "following" certain posters. You'll be surprised how much info you get and how quick you'll pick up on things.

 

Oh, and if you have a YouTube account, subscribe to Eric's Trains.

http://www.youtube.com/channel...kal_rt9zt6Td60lfdGQQ

 

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Hi everyone!  My name is Cory, and the layout in the video at the beginning of this thread is mine!  Actually, my grandfather built it many years ago.  I found it neglected and crushed in a relatives garage.  In 2013 I restored it to as close to "like new" condition as I could.  

 

The response on this forum to the layout is amazing!  I think the fact that it has two reversing loops, two trains, a passing siding, a bridge, and a tunnel, all in such a small space makes it particularly interesting.

 

The layout is made out of regular Lionel O gauge track.  It is not O27, Fastrack, Super-O, or any other brand.  The curves are all O-31 radius.  The straight pieces are all regular 10" pieces or half pieces.  None had to be cut to fit.  

 

The real challenge of this layout is wiring it so that two trains can run simultaneously.  I have put together a very rough wiring diagram from memory.  I"ll attach it to this post so that everyone can see generally how it's done.  I would really love to see someone here take up the challenge of building this layout and making it run right!  If you do, please post pictures!  I really want to see it.  

 

If you find any mistakes in my wiring diagram, please let me know so that I can fix it!  

 

Also, now that I have discovered this forum I am happy to answer any questions any one has!  I can always be reached at tiller98@gmail.com.

 

Thanks to everyone for showing so much interest in my grandfather's old layout!

 

Cory

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They say that the only dumb question is the one that you don't ask....... so here goes 

I love the two train operation. Can I do this with an MTH Proto 2 or a Lionel LionChief engine? I see some awesome potential with this layout.

I really don't know much about the engines you mentioned.  What I can tell you is that any engine that can handle O-31 radius curves and can run off any common Lionel AC transformer should work.  

Originally Posted by rogerpete:

They say that the only dumb question is the one that you don't ask....... so here goes 

I love the two train operation. Can I do this with an MTH Proto 2 or a Lionel LionChief engine? I see some awesome potential with this layout.

Thanks

It appears the layout was designed to operate two trains in conventional mode using isolated rails and relays to avoid collisions by stopping one train on the siding while the other passes. Really a pretty neat set up. I find the isolated rails and relays and automatic operation with them challenging and fascinating. In some ways I think this is more fascinating and challenging than command control operation.

 

As it is automatically operating in the video, you could not use the LionChief engine unless it was LionChief Plus and in conventional mode. LionChief won't operate in conventional mode, only remote. LionChief Plus will operate in either mode. You could use the PS-2 engine (or 2 PS-2 engines) as those will operate in conventional mode. In other words, anything that will operate in conventional mode should work on the layout and operate as shown in the video.

 

You could operate regular LionChief and PS-2 on the layout using both remotes, but it would not be automatic, you would have to control everything, the trains and switches etc. to make sure there were no collisions.

 

If you are interested in more information on this type of operation, forum member Dale H has posted many ways of operating in conventional mode using isolated rails and relays as well as other interesting methods of controlling conventional trains. He is very knowledgeable in this area and has posted some very interesting stuff.

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