Help with an Ives Standard Gauge Engine

Hey Peter, I just did a quick search here for Ives, maybe Hennings could help with some things. I also saw in some of the search results that Ives engines have a stamp underneath between the wheels(like most old standard gauge engines do). Maybe start with Hennings and see if anyone else will pop on and comment later on?

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Hey Peter, I just did a quick search here for Ives, maybe Hennings could help with some things. I also saw in some of the search results that Ives engines have a stamp underneath between the wheels(like most old standard gauge engines do). Maybe start with Hennings and see if anyone else will pop on and comment later on?

Dave.....that's a great idea!

Peter

Standard Gauge Tinplate Forever...

...Heavy Metal at it's very best...

...why would anyoneeven consider running plastic...?

Gads, what a thought......

Hmm, here is also a great place to start. Ives 3235R(R for reverse if I am not mistaken from other folks saying that is what R meant on a good number of models) Standard gauge search brought up quite a bit, most eBay, or other auction sites. There was a Cardinal Red 3235 on YouTube that someone was running.

I'm not sure if in my photos from the Toy Train Museum if this engine is there. I'd have to look on my flash drive to see. I do know that there are electric engines, and some steam, but I wouldn't be able to know off the top of my head what they were. When I get home tonight I'll pop a look at the pictures and see what is there.

Well, after searching for a while I could only find one good picture from October 17th 2018 from the Toy Train Museum. It is hard to tell quite a lot in the picture as I didn't get the typical close ups I normally do(not sure why I didn't, I did in other pictures). There is a wide variety of 32## engines in the case. 3236(top), 3242(next shelf down), 3241(next shelf down), 3245R(next shelf down). The back part to the right it is nearly impossible to make anything out. However, the orange engine(behind 3242 on the second shelf) just below it almost looks like it could be 3235(no R though), it looks like a good match above(just missing the R for reverse). Coaches look the same, combine and observation. That is the best I can do on my end Peter. I was hoping for a good bunch of close ups, but oh well. Hope this helps some. 

Circa 1925-1926 3235R in Dark Olive.  A little less common as an R (electric reverse) the the 3235. The 170-172  cars were probably not born with this loco. They were made from 1925-1927.  I guess it could be a special for a department store or something like that. this style of car is a value priced set using existing stampings, in this case the 184-186 dies. Repaint them haw ever you like.  Best we to match the paint is to take the underside of the roof to an auto parts place .

The Clem Clement is the best expert on Ives (He wrote the Greenberg book on Ives). Ives paint was terrible and didn't hold up. Not only was the paint of poor quality the detail paint around the windows was smeared. My guess is that the trim on your windows is at best is a touch up, it looks too good to be original. Mechanically they were great.

Scott Smith

Thank you, gents!

Peter

@scott.smith posted:

The Clem Clement is the best expert on Ives (He wrote the Greenberg book on Ives). Ives paint was terrible and didn't hold up. Not only was the paint of poor quality the detail paint around the windows was smeared. My guess is that the trim on your windows is at best is a touch up, it looks too good to be original. Mechanically they were great.

Scott Smith

The window detail was actually pretty good.... the same color on the door of the combine would usually be smeared a lot more.  That is an original color.... as is the maroon on the loco.  The field paint is definitely of low quality.... really low.  There are a number of Ives specialists. Posing the question in the Ives group on #@$%book might yield information.