Help with Woodland Scenic medium foliage

what are you using for glue?

Dave

Elmers School glue and water plus a drop or two of Dawn

5 to one now, seems to hold well and spray well, I use lots and then a finish spray

Thanks

Steven

Try hairspray for adhesion and then hit it with a glue mix over the top to stick it in place.

Alternately, get elmer's Glue All instead of school glue (thicker) and brush it on undiluted.

or just try spray adhesive , then try the blowing method with a little push here and there with your fingertips

Steve,

Don't forget that if the surface is near vertical, not much would grow there anyway. Most vegetation would be in crevices where it would be easier to glue.

In general, the more vertical the surface the thicker the glue should be.  I almost never dilute more than 1:1, and then only if the surface is almost horizontal.

For vines, which would grow on the most vertical of surfaces, I used full strength Elmer's white glue and forced the scenic material in place with my fingers.

Jim

Jim, very well done

Thanks all
Jim great looking foliage

Aha moment

Now I get it….better adhesion less “tumble down” and use fingers to place

Also change Elmers type and mix higher ratio

Think I’ll also use the heavier, larger Woodland Scenic stuff.

Thanks to all

Steven Taylor

@train steve  If you really have a 40 ft2 area, wouldn't it be easier and more effective if you did the basic work on a horizontal surface and then put the foliage up?  You did not really describe what you wanted to do with the surface. 

It it a rock surface? do you want vines going up or going over the edge down? do you want "puff" type trees/background? Hand applying over 40 square feet does not sound like much fun to me.

For that large an area vines growing up might be good. Some modelers use hemp/twine to form the vine body then douse with white glue to harden up to keep its shape. Add foliage and then pop it up against your wall.

I've tried hair spray (don't think it is sticky enough)  titebond wood glue (tends to shine through when dry) woodland scenics (works about the best and I don't notice a shine through) want to try granular wall paper paste (looks interesting to control where the glue goes) and 3M adhesive spray (works great, really tacky, but is a great way to turn a tree into a flat mess if you touch it too much and its really hard not to get the spray everywhere).

If the vertical surface is not finished, consider using thin cotton batting, paint and coat to your liking and then just apply to the surface like wall paper. I would probably use hot melt in a couple of places to make it stick until the rest of the "wall adhesive" dries.  I did this for the mountains on my RR. In that case I glued the batting to foam. Check out my TPRR for photos.

Lets have a look at what you are up to. maybe there will be more suggestions from the group.

@Jim Policastro posted:

Steve,

Don't forget that if the surface is near vertical, not much would grow there anyway. Most vegetation would be in crevices where it would be easier to glue.

In general, the more vertical the surface the thicker the glue should be.  I almost never dilute more than 1:1, and then only if the surface is almost horizontal.

For vines, which would grow on the most vertical of surfaces, I used full strength Elmer's white glue and forced the scenic material in place with my fingers.

Jim

Great advice Jim .    Great looking scenery sir . 🤓