Here we see the mighty texas type steam locomotives.Due to a shortage in locomotives these steamer proved they still had what it takes to pull a train.I bet these locomotives got every body to take notice them going through town.
Replies sorted oldest to newest
That was fun to watch!
Thanks for posting, Exceptionally good steam footage
Nice video of an unusual occurrence on the Pennsy. I've read the Pennsylvania enginemen really liked the larger cabs of the Santa Fe 2-10-4s.
I live in Ohio, about an hour from Sandusky. That was great steam footage. Most of those engines ran west of Cleveland out in what we call the "flat lands" of Ohio. Further east the curves were too tight and grades too steep. Most of the big PRR engines ran out of Crestline, Ohio to the west, there was a large roundhouse in Crestline back then. If you Google Crestline, Ohio steam engines, you'll see many of them.
http://crestlineprr.com/PhotoGallery.html#index
Really enjoyed that, thanks for sharing.
Thank you for posting! Very nice video. Reminds me I wish I had seen the big Mallets on the B&O a half mile from where I grew up. I was born in 1956, same year as this video.
Terrific video
Bill T.
Guys you very welcome.I seen this 2-10-4 the t&p steamer came to n.c.You know the freedom train.I would like to have one but my layout turns are to tight for some that big.I would have loved to been there to see that.There a one santa fe texas in a park some where in texas I think.
For normal operation, the 5011s were kept on the Sandusky Line, while Big Jays used there were sent away...but not too far. Cab signals had a lot to do with this.
The PRR Engine crews really liked those big Santa Fe 2-10-4s, once they got accustomed to oil fired locomotives. Those Santa Fe locomotives were also in MUCH better shape than the PRR steam power, that late in the steam era. However, when the PRR was finished using them, those Santa Fe 2-10-4s had been so badly abused, they went directly to the scrap line.
Absolutely true...NO locomotive can survive the PRR environment very long without being reduced to rolling scrap ! This is a testimony of sorts to both regular Penn steam power, and EMD, when it comes to Diesels. The Jays and H10s continued to turn in useful work, in spite of their deplorable condition. EMD was the only real survivor in the Penn Diesel camp, and even then, there could be problems. As bad as this was...you should have heard the stuff from outfits that leased power to Penn Central !
This video is from our DVD "Steam & Diesel on the PRR, Volume 2". The 16mm film was shot by Donald J. Krofta and is typical of his shooting style. He shot excellent footage of not just PRR but also NKP, NYC, B&O, CN, CP, N&W and more, all of which I released on multiple DVD's. The audio was recorded by his friend Jim Hawk as Don shot the action on silent film. I did the audio dubbing from Hawk's 1/4 inch tapes. The film was narrated by Ralph E. Morse, a veteran CBS reporter.
Don's films are featured in the following videos that we produced:
Steam & Diesel on the NYC, Volumes 1,2,3.
Niagara's Last Stand (Toledo area-NYC with a little B&O).
NYC Indiana Division, Volumes 1,2. (Cincinnatti and Lafayette, IN areas)
Steam & Diesel on the NKP, Volumes 1,2,3,4
Steam & Diesel on the B&O, Volumes 1,2.
Steam & Diesel on the PRR, Volumes 1,2.
Canadian Steam, Volume 1 (CN & CP in Ontario)
Pocahontas Glory Volume 7 (N&W).
All are still available.
-Jim Herron
Herron Rail Video
Its interesting how both the Pennsy and Santa Fe:
Gave up on articulated engines, instead building fleets of ten coupled power;
bought ex-N&W Y-3 2-8-8-2's during WWII;
were major users of tenders with dual eight wheel trucks.
Stuart
That's a real dose of "he man" railroading! The two biggest sets of 2-10-4's shouldering real tonnage. From my reading, it was said that the J1 could start a heavier train, but once moving, the Santa Fe engine could move it's train faster. Also read that the Santa Fe engines came back sans seat cushions.....they were more comfortable then Pennsy's!
And think about Attica Jct. Tower. All of the PRR Sandusky line action combined with a crossing of B&O's main, with double-shotted mountains ramrodding Timesaver freights, 2-10-2's (Big Sixes) on coal trains, maybe even an occaisional demoted President Pacific. The fellows who were there, and who saw all this action are at least in their 80's, now. That's why I always like to read of peoples' experiences.....once they're gone, the stories are gone, too.