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After failing to explain the reason of the Greenbrier Presidential Express plan not working, I decided to ask how exactly the FRA gets involved with railroading today. I know they are in charge of mandating freight and passenger operations, and steam locomotive practices, but how else do they apply? For example, if I restore a narrow gauge shay in my back yard, would they have any involvement with that? Or theme parks like Disney World or King's Island that have operating steam locomotives, do they mandate the operation of them?

If anyone has answers, let me know!

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Unless a railroad crosses a public road or navigable waterway (and is not connected to tracks that are governed by the FRA) , it is "insular," and the FRA has no jurisdiction. Thus, most theme parks that operate steam do not fall under FRA jurisdiction, and instead must comply with their various state safety agencies.

Likewise, if you restored a narrow gauge steam engine in your back yard, you'd be free to do what you want with the engine (assuming any tracks didn't cross any roads/waterways) .

But if you want to get everything from the horse's mouth, why not look up the actual FRA information yourself? Just google 49 CFR. You can go from about 49 CFR 209 to about 49 CFR 240. You will see there is very little the FRA is NOT involved in!

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Agencies within the Department of Transportation


Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
Federal Highway Administration (FHWA)
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA)
Federal Railroad Administration (FRA)
Federal Transit Administration (FTA)
Maritime Administration (MARAD)
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)
Office of Inspector General (OIG)
Office of the Secretary of Transportation (OST)
Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA)
Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation (SLSDC)
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Research and Technology (OST-R)
Surface Transportation Board (STB)

Let Google by your guide.

Charlie

This little H.K. Porter 0-4-0T belonged to the Father of a close friend of my Mother, but Clyde's "Backyard" was about 6 acres. It also helped that Clyde was a machinist by trade, with his own machine shop business. Clyde had a Love of old machinery, and bought the Porter, a Heisler(3 truck) and a large collection of antique machinery at scrap value for most of it.

The Little Porter was the first live steam throttle I ever pulled. While I did get to see it before Clyde's passing, my only opportunity to run it, came at the Final Steam up in his honor, after his passing. Clyde's collection also included several steam farm tractors, and stationary "Donkeys", and a Stanley Steamer automobile. His collection was nothing short of a medium size museum.

  The Bachmann #1 Gauge Saddle tank Porter(long out of production), is a model of Clyde's locomotive, and I managed to find 2 of them. A couple years ago, I put together some track, transformer and cars(Clyde never had any rolling stock), wrapped it up, and a few days before Christmas, stopped by to "Visit" Linda and Arnie. When Linda opened that package and recognized the Porter as her Father's, she started crying, it had to be one of the Best and most memorable moments that I have had in this hobby.

Unfortunately, the family was not able to keep Clyde's collection, and the Porter was sold to a Private individual in Kelowna, BC who has given Linda an invitation to come see "Her Dad's Porter" whenever she likes. it sounds like the new owner is very personable, and will take Good care of the little Porter.

 You can have a locomotive in your backyard(check local ordinances FIRST!!!!), Clyde's little Porter's boiler did not have a current certificate, and he had fitted it with an 80 PSI safety valve, because of that reason, but it still brought many people, many smiles, not the least of which was mine.

Doug

 

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Brody, it has been many years since I watched that clip. The late Dick James is the narrator on this video. Dick was general manager for a local radio station (WBBW) here in the Youngstown area where I worked part time. He had a great set of pipes. I hired him to do several of my old Hopewell videos.

I also noted that many of the people in that clip are no longer with us. Glenn Brendel, Dick Yager, Larry Randolph and several others in that video have passed on.

It has been 32 years since I produced that video. Good memories...

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I had heard about Dick's passing in a NKPH&TS magazine.  It looks like he was the first FWRHS member to run the engine. The only founding members I have met were Wayne York at the Member Day, and Walter Sassmannhausen at a train show at Science Central. He had NKP 710's numberboard and some historic photos of the Berks in action that day. I only recognized him from Listen For The Whistle.

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