How to wire a Ross 4-way switch and a crossover?

Ross 4 way diagram.    Click on the underlined phrase to link.

Ross Double Cross over diagram.    Click on the underlined phrase to link.

Thanks, Mike.  That's helpful.  Geez, I should've gone to Ross' web site first. The 4 way you attached is slightly different than the diagram that comes in the box.  The crossover it the same.

I guess I'll check Z Stuff, too.

I think you are correct about the 4 way; it's really just 3 separate switches physically connected together.

I have the 175 crossover and it operates beautifully. I wired it such that both DZ1000 actuators operate in tandem in each crossing direction. This way only one controller operates both switches to curved when a train is crossing over, then one click and both are straight again afterwards. Works great and saves multiple controllers. I just use the DZ pushbutton controllers.

I didn't bother using a relay to power the center diamond per the Ross instructions. Occasionally a shorter engine will stutter when crossing over, but most are just fine.

Rod

Thanks, Rod.  I appreciate the info and feedback.

Here is what I figured so far.  Here is my sketch.  As I recall from years ago, the Ps and Gs that you need to run jumpers per Ross instructions are already done because the 4 way is Ross Ready with the switch boxes (Z Stuff) installed.  However, switch box #1 below doesn't seem to have a non-derailing feature.

So if an engine pulls in from left to right it will go the route that's already in place unless I throw switch #1.  However, if you are pulling out of the yard from right to left in the #2 switch, you would derail if #1 is set to let the #3 switch through.  Does the exit from right to left through the #1 switch not have a derailing function?  If so, is there a way to create one?  I wish to avoid having to pay that close attention to to avert derailment when I'm letting the trains roll.

All comments suggestions welcomed.  In the meantime, I'll be doing more figuring in my train room, experimenting with this diagram.

Wow, that's an amazing amount of wiring!

I didn't attempt to follow it all through. But why not mock it up on the bench with a whole mitt full of test leads with alligator clips. That will sure tell you if it's all gonna work as envisioned.

Rod

Not that it was asked but I did a double slip, and I used 2 of these just to help with laying out the wiring. I soldered wires to every possible section of rail and diamond (and numbered them) and then used these to tie all the wiring together on top of the bench work so I could work.  Then, once it work fine I moved these. My thought was even if I was not going to use the wire today maybe one day when my knowledge increased I would not need to get back under the rail to solder.