I want to replace my TUI rev 13 with latest rev L

Should be same function wise, provided DCS levels the same, the thumb wheel may be different. We have two originals.

No reason at all to swap the remotes, I have three of them, two of the newer style and one of the older ones.  I see no difference in operation, all have 4.30 loaded.

 

Matt,

 

Do you know the proper procedure to replace a TIU if it isn't #1?

Thanks guys for such quick responses.

John - thanks a bunch. ..that's great to know that I don't need swap the remote even though I could use another remote for my accessories at some point.

Barry - I do not know the proper procedure. My plan was to swap TIU so both have rev L and I was just going to start fresh by resetting everything and then just re add all engines and accessories back after fully reseting everything.  I'm sure it's not necessary to reset everything remotes/TIUs but just figured I'd start from scratch. That procedure would be nice to know though.

Matt,

 

Look at Appendix J: Replacing a TIU in The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition. Depending upon the TIU number of the replacement, the process is little different.

 

This and a whole lot more is all in MTH’s “The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition", available for purchase as an eBook or a printed book at MTH's web store!

If the tiu is the same number just swap it out . You don't have to do anything. Remote  will retain engines and switches and probably accessories however  recordings and play back will be lost.  I just switch an  L for an older tiu only because it had the antenna modification... I'm not that  impressed with the L. I couldn't tell any difference signal wise.

 

ever since I got PS3 engines it seems as if I been getting lots of weird signal issues that I am pulling my hair out. I also run Lionel Legacy with never a single signal issue. I love MTH engines so I have to keep trying. I just ordered the new TIU ver L so let's see if having both TIUs ver. L and resetting everything solves my issues. I'm also in the middle of changing my bus wiring to star so I'm sure that's going to help as well. I am pulling out all of my home depot #12 wire and replacing all track feeds with #14 wire that OGR Backshop recommends...I ordered a 1000ft spool of this wire. 

Matt,

From reading your post, it sounds like you are replacing the I3 TIU with an L just to be sure the different versions are not the source of your problems. 

 

From what I have read, there should be no issues running different version TIU's on the same layout.  I currently have an I3 and an I, and I have an L in transit to me.  I plan to run all 3 on my layout.  For the older TIU's, I will use the Susan Deats DCS filters.  But, given the stronger signal from the version L TIU, I don't plan to incorporate any signal enhancement.

 

Barry, can you confirm that running various versions of TIU's should be OK?

 

For people who are replacing older TIU's with the version L, what are you doing with your old TIU's?  Keeping as spares? Selling them? 

Vince, you are correct. I am aware that you can use diff. versions of TIUs but being that the L version supposed to have a stronger signal I figured let me try just simply swapping out my old TIU I3 I am just about at the end of my rope here with MTH so I have to try everything. For some reason it seems my PS2 engines have much less signal problems. 

Here are some important questions for the experts such as Barry and the rest. 

 

  When you are adding/removing/resetting engines in the remote when you have a setup with 2 TIUs always running in Super TIU mode:

 

1. do you leave both TIUs on?

2. do you have to switch TIUs to Normal Mode or can you keep them both at Super Mode?

3. Does it matter which TIU the engine is connected to when adding/deleting/Resetting engines?

 

 

 

Vince,

Barry, can you confirm that running various versions of TIU's should be OK?

Yes, you can most certainly "mix and match" various TIU models.

Matt,

When you are adding/removing/resetting engines in the remote when you have a setup with 2 TIUs always running in Super TIU mode:

 

1. do you leave both TIUs on?

 

I always have all layout TIUs powered up when adding/deleting or editing engines in Super TIU mode. This is just good sense and allows engines to be accessed wherever they are on the layout.

 

2. do you have to switch TIUs to Normal Mode or can you keep them both at Super Mode?

 

No, you do not need to switch into Normal TIU modet. Further, it could be problematical to do so.

 

3. Does it matter which TIU the engine is connected to when adding/deleting/Resetting engines?

 

No, it does not, as long as you're operating in Super TIU mode.

 

My tracks are all 3 rail STAINLESS gargraves because I live very close to ocean. Does anyone know if stainless doesn't carry the DCS signal as well as regular rails? 

You know what.... I've had dcs just as long as Broskowitz and look after a large super mode layout which runs like a top... It's very frustrating posting here   when some can't even  be bothered to even say thanks or don't trust what you've posted.. If you think Barry is the only one that knows about dcs think again.... most in his books has come from other forum members over the years. I'm in a bad mood , my wife had a stroke recently and this is my  last post. I'm just too busy for this . If you don't think using a programming track adding engines  is a good idea  you'll find out soon enough.

 

Gregg;

Not sure you will read this, but if so, myself and I am sure many others have always appreciated your advice and input on this forum.

Its easy to get upset when others seem to go out of their way to undermine your suggestions; been there, done that, ate the T shirt.

I think most here read all responses to a given question, then make a decision based on the collective information. That is usually better than using the advice of only one source, which may be incomplete or even incorrect.

Anyway I am sure most here hope that you will stay with us; the forum would be considerably worse off without you.

Just my nickel's worth.

BTW, sorry to hear about your wife. Hope she makes a full recovery!

Rod

Just to clarify:

My post was not aimed at anyone in particular.
It was just a general comment from my experiences on the forum.
Please don't anyone take offence, OK?

 

Thanks all,

Rod

Too late Rod, here they come!

 

Gregg, First things first.  I'm sorry to hear about your wife and wish her a speedy and complete recovery.

 

All, while I don't use a programming track as such, when adding a loco or uploiading or downloading a sound file, I have both TIUs (a Rev G &  Rev H) on, but all inputs off except for one channel.  On that channel, I have all blocks turned off except for one.  So maybe in effect I do have a programming track, since only one short length is alive and all other locos electrically disconnected.  Limits the breadth of things that might go wrong

Uh-oh; I'm in deep doggy doodoo now!

 

Rod

Barry, John and all the rest who have been very helpful with your suggestions. 

 

I received my new TIU Rev L and removed my Rev 13 so now I have 2 rev L's. I then upgraded the new TIU to version 4.3 so now both TIUs are version 4.3 and set them both to super mode. I also removed all the magic lights since they are no longer required with ver. L

 

 Here is the wonderful news (don't want to jinx it) I tested some of my engines so far and I have to say that now since both are rev L's I am now getting the big 10 signal. I don't think I ever had such a good signal on my layout. 

 

For all of you who are having DCS signal issues I highly recommend you replace your TIUs with all rev. L's. This may resolve your issues as it seemed to resolve mine. I was so happy I was screaming last night while my engines were running properly for once around the layout without any noticeable signal drops. 

 

I will try to do some more testing over the weekend with my other engines.