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Any possibility that another museum - such as Illinois Ry Museum - could grab the more attractive/critical-to-save pieces? Or Fort Wayne, for the NKP Mike, as noted above?
There are no plans to scrap any of their more valuable, historic equipment. They need to scrap some of the lower hanging fruit to pay for the upcoming transportation moves, some of which is already very forgone. FWRHS is actively engaged in getting some private equipment out of there and it's not at all an inexpensive endeavor. We are not interested in 587. ITM has its own plans that its exploring for that, the Budd cars and other pieces of rolling stock.
Whew, sad! Sorry they got in such a bind!
587 would actually be more historically appropriate for Headwaters Junction. The Lake Erie and Western Railroad and NYC shared shop facilities at the proposed site.
Tinplate Art posted:Whew, sad! Sorry they got in such a bind!
It's sad, but the mismanagement and acrimony are epic. Those involved should be ashamed of what they've allowed to happen.
Does anyone have good information on what the future plans are for 587? Is it going to Logansport?
645 posted:I just found out this regarding ITM:
The Circuit Court of Hamilton County, Indiana has given the Indiana Transportation Museum (ITM) until Thursday; July 12, 2018 to remove itself from Forest Park in Noblesville. The order was issued this morning - Friday; June 29, 2018.
So ITM has just under two weeks to move everything out as of today. Be interesting to see what happens to anything not moved out by then...
Which raises the question about their biggest "asset", i.e. NKP 2-8-2 #587. Just my opinion but, I don't believe they have the finances to truck #587 out of there, nor a suitable place to take her.
This whole sordid mess is an excellent example for any and all organizations to, "Own the property that your collection is on"!
I don't see how they could possibly be out July 12th. This does not look good at all. I hope 587 isn't scrapped but they may not have a choice.
Hot Water posted:This whole sordid mess is an excellent example for any and all organizations to, "Own the property that your collection is on"!
It’s also a textbook example of how NOT to run and manage a volunteer organization. Everyone has to be working from the same switch list in order to succeed. Warring factions developed within the ITM that tore the outfit apart.
587 cannot legally be scrapped, its registered with feds as a historical artifact. It would get sold to someone, as would the better engines like 426, 200 and 83a. and I would suspect the Budd coaches. ITM has wasted the last several months playing legal tag instead of using the funds to get out of dodge. They are not wanted by the current political set up in that area. Time to get out and go to Logansport or somewhere safe till a new home is found for the good stuff.
OGR Webmaster posted:Hot Water posted:This whole sordid mess is an excellent example for any and all organizations to, "Own the property that your collection is on"!It’s also a textbook example of how NOT to run and manage a volunteer organization. Everyone has to be working from the same switch list in order to succeed. Warring factions developed within the ITM that tore the outfit apart.
Amen. I saw this happen at two separate volunteer tourist railroads that I worked on about 20 years ago. The sad part is, the second one was basically a reiteration of the first- apparently no one learned from the first time so they did it all over again.
JUDGE GIVES TRANSPORTATION MUSEUM TWO WEEKS TO LEAVE PARK
Hot Water posted:This whole sordid mess is an excellent example for any and all organizations to, "Own the property that your collection is on"!
And if possible, the land surrounding your property. IRM, for example, has been pretty aggressive in buying up "buffer land" so some dweeb doesn't move in and complain about the museum's stinky, noisy trains.
Rusty
Plus make sure you got rail access to get your stuff out, even if it will be placed on flatcars.
Once that is secure, have a plan to cover your stuff.
Hot Water posted:...This whole sordid mess is an excellent example for any and all organizations to, "Own the property that your collection is on"!
And "behave like responsible adults".
What a shame. Just think of all the hours that went into restoring that Alco. Too bad everything can't find new homes.
RSJB18 posted:What a shame. Just think of all the hours that went into restoring that Alco.
It wasn't an Alco, but a former Milwaukee Road EMD SW1, which had a bad engine bearing and one end was sitting on a freight car truck anyway.
Too bad everything can't find new homes.
OOPS, my bad 
