I think I'm going to need a little help on installing my new tunnel portal, I can't quite figure out the orientation to make it all work out! It kinda' looks like the right side should be down, but I'm not sure...
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Looks like it needs heat treated at about 220C if it's PLA!
Have not printed the 248x230... but, I am now. It's saying its a 12 hour print (vertical & diagonal print) well over twice as long compared to laying it flat. We'll see if it makes it. John, was that an overnight print... in the 12 hr realm?
Looks like my fishing line after a bad cast into the wind, but I'm pretty sure the left side is down.
John, Looks like your print stayed a "cloud file". Need better conversion software. 
Check that portal for mice first.........
I have seen that before; Did I ship it to your house?
Marty
@Dennis-LaRock posted:Have not printed the 248x230... but, I am now. It's saying its a 12 hour print (vertical & diagonal print) well over twice as long compared to laying it flat. We'll see if it makes it. John, was that an overnight print... in the 12 hr realm?
Yep, it was supposed to be around 9 hours, I came down about 9 hours after it started and it was still spitting out filament! It was a whole plate of parts for a tunnel portal, I'm printing them in smaller increments this time!
@BillYo414 posted:Looks like it needs heat treated at about 220C if it's PLA!
I think it needed something else, it got 220C and didn't seem to like it. 
It was supposed to look like this in five pieces, but it didn't quite come out like I wanted. 
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Good looking portal would you mind sharing the step file without the lettering? So I could add and change to my own.
@Shawn_Chronister posted:Good looking portal would you mind sharing the step file without the lettering? So I could add and change to my own.
Sure, I got it on Thingiverse 3D, search with Google (or your favorite search engine) for this exact phrase with the quotes since I can't post links on OGR: "Single Track Stone Tunnel Portal for O Scale Model Trains"
12 hour print.
the newest FormLabs 4 printer prints in 1 hr 38 minutes what it takes my Formlabs 3+ printer to do in 10 hrs 47 minutes.
1h 38 m Form 4
@AlanRail posted:12 hour print.
the newest FormLabs 4 printer prints in 1 hr 38 minutes what it takes my Formlabs 3+ printer to do in 10 hrs 47 minutes.
1h 38 m Form 4
All for the low low price of 7000 dollars and very messy processing.
@AlanRail posted:12 hour print.
the newest FormLabs 4 printer prints in 1 hr 38 minutes what it takes my Formlabs 3+ printer to do in 10 hrs 47 minutes.
1h 38 m Form 4
Alan, that's a huge difference, do they do firmware upgrades, or do you have to buy a whole new printer?
@Dave Ripp. posted:Alan, that's a huge difference, do they do software upgrades, or do you have to buy a whole new printer?
They do firmware updates and slicer changes to improve stuff but the hardware is what create the significant difference in speed.
Other printers you can swap stuff or do upgrade to make them better little different on these resin type printers.
@AlanRail posted:12 hour print.
the newest FormLabs 4 printer prints in 1 hr 38 minutes what it takes my Formlabs 3+ printer to do in 10 hrs 47 minutes.
1h 38 m Form 4
What's the build plate size on the form4... 220x220x250?
The 12hr. print is now down to 10:57 and 'dropping' as the algorithm adjusts to the print. It's also printing diagonally on the bed at 230mm with a 248mm height. I certainly am not helping it as it's 100% infill and 4 walls as opposed to the 2 or 3 wall stock setting. And... of course, a $295.00 printer. I'll lay it flat and do a 220x220mm print when this is done and see how long that takes...
@Dennis-LaRock posted:What's the build plate size on the form4... 220x220x250?
The 12hr. print is now down to 10:57 and 'dropping' as the algorithm adjusts to the print. It's also printing diagonally on the bed at 230mm with a 248mm height. I certainly am not helping it as it's 100% infill and 4 walls as opposed to the 2 or 3 wall stock setting. And... of course, a $295.00 printer. I'll lay it flat and do a 220x220mm print when this is done and see how long that takes...
The Formlabs 4 has a Build volume 20.0 × 12.5 × 21.0 cm (7.9 × 4.9 × 8.3 in) according to what I found.
@Shawn_Chronister posted:All for the low low price of 7000 dollars and very messy processing.
I found it for $4400, but still about nine times what my K1C cost. I like the prints that come off the resin printers, but after actually seeing the process first hand recently, I'm not ready to do that processing just yet.
@Dave Ripp. posted:Alan, that's a huge difference, do they do firmware upgrades, or do you have to buy a whole new printer?
It's a whole new printer.
I found out what happened to get this...
Turns out the top of the tunnel portal pieces simply won't print flat, even with a brim! I'm printing one of them vertically now, and it's sticking fine. It's totally covered in tree supports, looks pretty ridiculous! If I didn't know what I was printing, I'd probably abort the print because I figured something else was printing!
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John, do you have to design in all the printing supports or will the printer software figure that out?
@ScoutingDad posted:John, do you have to design in all the printing supports or will the printer software figure that out?
You have the option of auto supports, paint on supports and even manual based on cad or ther settings in the slicers used to convert files to gcode for the printers.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I found it for $4400, but still about nine times what my K1C cost. I like the prints that come off the resin printers, but after actually seeing the process first hand recently, I'm not ready to do that processing just yet.
its $4400 for the basic package which does not come with any of the process machines that wash and uv to harden the resin.
@ScoutingDad posted:John, do you have to design in all the printing supports or will the printer software figure that out?
I let the slicer figure them out. You can do manual supports, but I haven't tried that yet.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I found out what happened to get this...
Turns out the top of the tunnel portal pieces simply won't print flat, even with a brim! I'm printing one of them vertically now, and it's sticking fine. It's totally covered in tree supports, looks pretty ridiculous!
Vertical = WINNING!!!!
$4,400 on the Form4!!! What a STEAL!!!! When's it arriving John!!!
@Dennis-LaRock posted:Vertical = WINNING!!!!
$4,400 on the Form4!!! What a STEAL!!!! When's it arriving John!!!
I was trying to minimize the supports needed, but apparently there isn't enough material on the bottom to stick it laying flat, even with a brim it still comes loose.
Still learning... 
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I was trying to minimize the supports needed, but apparently there isn't enough material on the bottom to stick it laying flat, even with a brim it still comes loose.
Still learning...
Which one are you printing... the Lucasville or the 230x248mm?
I'm printing a different one, I found it on Thingiverse.
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The price is high on the formlabs printers. I agree. But if the printer you have is making the quality of prints you like, why go any higher in price.
The Elegoo I "had" made nice prints. It just took too long to level the plate each time, and the Elegoo slicer program as way too complicated for me to use.
I like the quality of the prints I get with my formlabs 3+; the setup is just leveling the printer's legs. The formlabs slicer does it all for you. I can set it up a print remotely on-line.
It is hard enough to design a model; so I don't need any other issues with the 3D printer.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I'm printing a different one, I found it on Thingiverse.
I like the look of that one John.
John
@AlanRail posted:The price is high on the formlabs printers. I agree. But if the printer you have is making the quality of prints you like, why go any higher in price.
The Elegoo I "had" made nice prints. It just took too long to level the plate each time, and the Elegoo slicer program as way too complicated for me to use.
I like the quality of the prints I get with my formlabs 3+; the setup is just leveling the printer's legs. The formlabs slicer does it all for you. I can set it up a print remotely on-line.
It is hard enough to design a model; so I don't need any other issues with the 3D printer.
Little doubt you can get great quality from the resin printer, but I personally couldn't justify the expense with my minimal level of 3D modeling expertise. Besides, even if I were going to eventually consider such a printer, I'd probably wait until I was a lot more proficient with the 3D modeling before I could justify that kind of expense for better print quality. 
I don't worry about leveling, the printer does all that totally automatically, I just stuck it on the table and told it to calibrate. After 10-15 minutes, it was all done and ready to print. As for printing on-line, I do all my prints using the network, and I could do it from anywhere, but of course, I'm always here anyway for the printing.
Printing remotely only works for one print anyway, then you have to be there to configure for the next print.
Besides, if I weren't right here, I wouldn't be able to harvest my occasional bird's nest.
My best one yet!
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@Craftech posted:I like the look of that one John.
John
Yep, it's a pretty neat looking portal.
What printer do you have john
@Ohio Jeff posted:What printer do you have john
I have the Creality K1C. The printer is great, but the Creality software leaves something to be desired. I'm still trying to sort out the strange issues using the Orca slicer, that would be a good alternative.
Would you recommend it as a first printer still?
@Ohio Jeff posted:Would you recommend it as a first printer still?
Well, I like the printer, but with the current crappy Creality software, I think I'd be looking at perhaps the Bambu Lab P1S 3D Printer, basically the same price and capabilities. Also, from what I read, their software works. I live in hope that Creality gets their head out of the dark place and fixes their slicer, but I don't know that that's going to happen. I sent my issues to their support and crickets, no reply at all. 
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Well, I like the printer, but with the current crappy Creality software, I think I'd be looking at perhaps the Bambu Lab P1S 3D Printer, basically the same price and capabilities. Also, from what I read, their software works. I live in hope that Creality gets their head out of the dark place and fixes their slicer, but I don't know that that's going to happen. I sent my issues to their support and crickets, no reply at all.
The Bambu A1 with AMS is on sale at a pretty good deal right now. I bought it last year at full price and it’s pretty amazing. Blows any of the Creality printers I had out of the water, and the software is fantastic. (At least for me).
@David K. Simpson posted:The Bambu A1 with AMS is on sale at a pretty good deal right now. I bought it last year at full price and it’s pretty amazing. Blows any of the Creality printers I had out of the water, and the software is fantastic. (At least for me).
The Bambu A1 looks good, but I don't really have any burning interest in the AMS add-on. Right now I'm perfectly screwing up with one reel of filament, no need to jump to four of them!
If Creality doesn't get their act together, I may find a buyer for the K1C and try the Bambu.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:The Bambu A1 looks good, but I don't really have any burning interest in the AMS add-on. Right now I'm perfectly screwing up with one reel of filament, no need to jump to four of them!
If Creality doesn't get their act together, I may find a buyer for the K1C and try the Bambu.
The A1 without AMS is even cheaper at 299. It’s one heck of a printer. I kept one of my Ender V3s as a backup but honestly haven’t turned it on since getting the A1.
@David K. Simpson posted:The A1 without AMS is even cheaper at 299. It’s one heck of a printer. I kept one of my Ender V3s as a backup but honestly haven’t turned it on since getting the A1.
That would be the likely replacement, I've heard a lot of good reviews for the Bambu. Sadly, although the K1C is a really decent printer, Creality support really sucks, nothing but crickets when you have a problem! 
If the Creality software worked properly, I'd be a happy camper!
@gunrunnerjohn posted:That would be the likely replacement, I've heard a lot of good reviews for the Bambu. Sadly, although the K1C is a really decent printer, Creality support really sucks, nothing but crickets when you have a problem!
If you get it, my only advice would be to keep your hands clear of it when it’s working. The bed moves as fast as a ninja sword 😂
