Ives Wide (Standard) Gauge Motor WTB

Probably a tough one, but someone out there may have one - GOOD LUCK! ☺

Didn't mth make this too.

You might want to repost this in the buy/sell forums (or the moderator may move it there.)

I thought about posting over there but figured there’d be more of a chance here with the tinplate folks like me. 
I looked on the MTH site but didn’t find anything close in Ives. They reproduced the Lionel 9E which is close but, I was afraid the Lionel design motor wouldn’t fit. I have a Lionel Super Motor that is a Prewar unit and it wouldn’t fit. The mounting ears I can deal with, the problem was the wheels hitting the mounting brackets. I didn’t want to cut the Ives frame if at all possible. 

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Many years ago I was looking for parts for my dad's. And there is a guy. Who is an IVES guy. And said York.  That mth  sold the parts there. Since I'm 3000 miles from York never got there.

But I did pick a frame  up from  Brian Wilson. EBay. 

His site was auctions on main. Think Tennessee.

Armature Bob hannon had on his eBay site. If you get that far. He might have an armature.

Another. Is MC coy. I got a gear from him. Think they made the motor to. And richcart. Who ever bought his tooling.

I lost MC coys phone number. He's the son. Lives in Washington State.

Thanks Riki,

appreciate the suggestions. I’d  like to find a complete unit  if possible.

Im not too far from York and have been there many times. But now that I’m an oldster and the traffic and aggressive drivers have made the drive a chore. 
I’ll weigh my options.

Don't know if you can use them their are 3 Ives on  Train-Citys choo choo auctions  right  now....  ..Good luck..

Did anyone ask Henning's trains?  They are Standard Gauge restoration specialists, and a sponsor on this Forum!

Sent email off to Harry’s, Haven’t  received a reply so far.

saw the Ives over to Choo Choo. They’re complet units. I just need a motor. I wouldn’t want to take a Complete engine apart to put another together. 
I really appreciate all the help though. 

Which version of the 3236 do you have?

Need pics or description.

There's 2 different motors for these, depending on year of production.

Absolutely. Correct.

mine is the later version with stamped steel frame and uses the Lionel #8 body. Probably the 1928 version.

Bill Clay posted:

Absolutely. Correct.

mine is the later version with stamped steel frame and uses the Lionel #8 body. Probably the 1928 version.

Gotcha.

Unfortunately that is going to be a harder motor to find at a reasonable price.  Those are such good motors that people don’t part with them often.

A serviced one with new wheels (usually required) tends to be valued around $200 or more.

MTH did make that locomotive, but I’m not sure how the mounting holes would line up with the frame.  Their motors are also around $200 if they have one to sell.

Personally I believe your best option would be to monitor online auctions and wait for a junker loco/set and try to get it reasonable.  Steal the motor and sell off the remaining stuff.

The metal plates on pick up . I have not found.

Yes they can be made. But those are cut.

riki posted:

The metal plates on pick up . I have not found.

search hard you must.

(they are just guards/extra support for the roller mounts.  Not really necessarily unless running through rough turnouts)

Ives 1122 I asked harry a few years ago. They didn't have them... Not sure if mth would. Can't remember if I asked.

I'll probably make them.

Here are my dad's wheels and what he did ..which I was thinking to do with Lionel.  Instead of pressing wheels on.

Except the axles are smaller..

That’s the way Ives used to attach wheels early on. I had a 3238 locomotive with the wheels held on the same way.

Bill.  Joe mainia ?. has the tooling..jlm trains.

The. Other dave mcfarther?...he is who I was in contact with . someone should have right last name. Hannon told me I forgot..  Think he is part of model train club? 

I’ve been in touch with Dave. McEntarfer of The Ives Society. He put the word out to the membership for me.

if you’re interested in Ives trains, a very worthwhile organization to join. 
ive been a member for years. They issue a heat magazine called Ties and another called Tracks. 

 Thanks...Ok..

I contacted jlw... Left word looking for motor

That plate in pick up. Mth or jlw does not have.

Dave... Is the one who told me about MTH and York.

Did you read my email?.

Talked to Harry .. Last week.  He bought richart tooling. Sold it to.. jlw. I think 

Jlw?

Oops..  JLM.

I have a 'narrow; motor from the Ives 3241, in running order...And we have both wide & narrow Ives driver sets & axles available. The Ives narrow motor collector , I have a few left.  Harry 

I passed on the M.E.W. parts tooling to JM Trains ( Joe Mania).  Joe is sorting and will be running some of the Ives parts also. I would suggest you let Joe know of anything that you would like to see remade. Most likely most items are too time consuming to set up for, as some operations will require 4-5 punches etc. to make.  I saved it from the scrap yard, now time for others to ??.  Harry 

Thanks harry. I can use a pick up roller and spring for 3236...

Thank you Harry for the information. I have one question on your 3241 motor.

 Is it the pre 1922 type with the finger brush holders or the later style with the tubular type?

Bill. Here is what my dad did when the ives 3236 motor went down.

Lgb motor ..

Thanks Riki!

your dad is certainly Resourceful! I only tried installing a Lionel Super Motor and it didn’t fit. I didn’t get that inventive gene from my dad. I managed to put the kids toys together when they were small.

i have a line on a Ives 3235-6 motor, I’ll see if it pans out. 
Bill

I have a 3235r if that's the same. The 3235 is cast frame and smaller.

What I can see it will work with some work. Making a bracket to reach frame is all I see.

Riki,   Thanks for the information. And thanks for the offer of the 3235R Motor. I think I found a motor. I’ll know for sure Friday. Keeping my fingers crossed it works out. I’ll keep everyone posted here. Thank you

Bill

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Oops. Bill. I was using my 3235 as and example.. It's a complete engine.  Not for sale.

No problem, hopefully the motor I located will come through on Friday.

Still waiting, guess it’s not going to happen tonight. I’ll see what happens tomorrow.