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So it starts.

In 3R I’ve purchased my first ever, 3rd Rail/Sunset locomotive, a PRR 4-4-2, a Weaver CP 4-6-2 Royal Hudson (an engine I’ve been crazy about forever), and a MTH Santa Fe DL-109/DL-110 pair.

In 2-rail, I’ve dug out all of my stuff, and I’ve preordered a 3rd Rail New Haven FA1-FB1 pair (Hunter Green) from Scott. I’ve also ordered some Atlas 2-rail 49.5” and 54” curve sections for track planning purposes. I found my completed hand layer 36” radius turnout, and the not completed 48”/36” curved turnout that I’d quit in the middle of building.

Now for some benchwork, and I will be starting the process of converting the three stuff to 3RS, and doing research on the best control system for everything.

All of my HO stuff and 90% of my N scale stuff is for sale.

It’s going to be a busy summer and fall of O model railroading here in the Michigan woods!

Jeff C

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Now that I have a little benchwork going I can start laying out track and begin to see what will fit and how it will look. My first impressions are that 49.5” radius (the 2-rail main minimum) curves seem huge in comparison to anything I’ve worked with before! B27824DF-DDEB-423B-BE50-5CC4DFEAFFF0AF9AE08C-763C-4240-A085-4E67FB5F56F1

There’s nothing like working with actual track to see what fits and what doesn’t, which is why I don’t get overly involved with sweating out track plans on paper or on the computer…

Jeff C

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The latest track plan, which is guaranteed to change—but it serves as a very rough and ready guide to what I want to do…



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40.5” radius minimum ( 081 in three rail speak) on the three rail, 49.5” radius on the 2-rail, 6” center to center spacing of double track on curves.

Jeff C

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Basically, your layout plan is a dual-track route with several stub sidings. OK for "looping" operations, if that is your intent. Is there room for structures (such as rural, suburban, or downtown buildings) and action accessories that may give reasons for a freight railroad to exist; i.e., hauling logs from a forest to a lumber mill, delivering coal from a mine to a power plant, or picking up milk cans at a dairy farm and delivering them to a processing facility.  For passenger trains, a small suburban station could provide a transportation site for passengers bound for a downtown terminal depot.

Just thinking out loud.  Carry on, regardless ...

Mike M.    LCCA 12394

In your initial post you mentioned researching control systems at some point. As an experienced control system evaluator, I will first say start with a conventional track based AC power setup. There are an amazing number of advanced control systems available, both track and R/C based. Also, battery power has become quite popular. I have tested many of these systems and power approaches and they all work well with many containing unique features. The advantage of conventional power is when you obtain a new engine you can immediately check its operation before any planned control system upgrade. In my experience of having tested  and published articles about the many available control systems, I would never give up the conventional AC power setup servicing my layout.

@leikec posted:

The latest track plan, which is guaranteed to change—but it serves as a very rough and ready guide to what I want to do…



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40.5” radius minimum ( 081 in three rail speak) on the three rail, 49.5” radius on the 2-rail, 6” center to center spacing of double track on curves.

Jeff C

Nice looking layout design ,  and you shouldn't have any issues  , with your curves.    PS  Im over   in the North Woods  of Wisconsin

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The outer loop, the 2-rail part of the layout, is where any runaround track will be, and I’m contemplating whether to include a facing point siding.

As far as structures go, they will mostly be flats, as the combination of broad curves, double track, and fairly narrow benchwork precludes having much in the way of appropriately sized, fully rendered buildings on the layout. But right now I’m still in the “seeing what fits” stage of design, because, in my situation, the available space for benchwork is to some degree mandating what can happen with the track plan, which is contrary to how many other layouts are designed.

Jeff C

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