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Just picked this up from my LHS and tried it right away.  I paired my Flyer Chief Berk and off she went.  Compared the two remotes and it seems that the loco is smoother with the multi remote.  The new remote does not have the detents on the throttle knob like the dedicated remote has.  Other than that they are functionally equivalent.  I have to dig our my FT's to see how they work.

Rolland

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Carsntrains, yes, they keep the memory after being turned off.  Agree with Matt B.  I have three LCP's, including the CSX GP38.  I have also found some very minor problems switching back and forth after a while, especially when I try to shut down all three, one after the other.  My table layout goes through three rooms and is 40' long, so that may have something to do with it.

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An interesting positive is that I run the SF FT and CSX GP38 on the same upper line.  With the dedicated remotes, the SF was always slightly faster causing me to walk from room to room with it in my hand.  The new remote solves that problem.  The two engines are traveling over 50' around and the speed seems now to be perfectly matched.

Jerry

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Cool layout!    Post more pictures sometime!    But lets HO HO hold it a minute.    According to some, LC and LCP is just for kids as a first engine?    Or someone just starting out in the hobby?  Myself I believe that radio control is the way of the future!  Those LCP engines seem to do a great job with slow speed and have plenty of power.   Heck my PE engine in the ready to run set does pretty darn good at super slow speed.   AFTER I got rid of the DC wall wart and got me a CW80.   

A nice thing about LC, LC+, and the forthcoming Bluetooth command control methods is that they are, as far as I can tell, completely oblivious to variations in layout wiring, scenery, track design, transformer grounding, etc., unlike TMCC/Legacy and DCS.  And with none of the disadvantages (complex block wiring, operator tied to fixed location transformer) of conventional.  No offense to those who love conventional, DCS or TMCC/Legacy, but these are some possible advantages.  Other advantages include the ability to be operated on conventional and command layouts along with conventional and TMCC/Legacy/DCS command locos with no modifications to layout or loco.  Really no downside, in my personal view,  other than the need for another handheld controller (remote, cell phone or tablet for Bluetooth), And a controller comes with each and every set/loco.  Of course, the top end locos haven't been available with LC+, but that appears to be changing in the current catalog. 

carsntrains posted:

   But lets HO HO hold it a minute.    According to some, LC and LCP is just for kids as a first engine?    Or someone just starting out in the hobby?  Myself I believe that radio control is the way of the future!    

You got it exactly right. Some of the posters here seem to want to promote this idea but they're wrong.

How do I know? Because I am not: a) a kid, b) just starting out, or c) buying my first engine. And there are dozens here like me who are enjoying LC+.

Don't know what the future holds for LC+ but -- for now -- it's here to stay. The line is continuing to expand with every catalog.    And of course we now have the introduction to Bluetooth control.

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I have also experienced problems switching back and forth between 2 locomotives that are running on different parts of my layout using the universal LionChief remote. One of the locomotive randomly comes to a dead stop, and makes the steady beeping noise indicating that it can't communicate with the remote.

I've gone back to using the individual remotes, haven't had any issues operating with them.

Bruce

I'm curious about this issue with the remote dropping the signal when one engine is not accessed for a while.  Can folks provide any more detail on this?  Is it only over fairly long distances?  Is it purely a time issue?  I only have a small corner of living room floor to work with at the moment, and maybe a total of 30 minutes run time on my remote, only ever running one engine at a time, so any further information is welcomed.  

JGL

johnstrains posted:
carsntrains posted:

   But lets HO HO hold it a minute.    According to some, LC and LCP is just for kids as a first engine?    Or someone just starting out in the hobby?  Myself I believe that radio control is the way of the future!    

You got it exactly right. Some of the posters here seem to want to promote this idea but they're wrong.

How do I know? Because I am not: a) a kid, b) just starting out, or c) buying my first engine. And there are dozens here like me who are enjoying LC+.

Don't know what the future holds for LC+ but -- for now -- it's here to stay. The line is continuing to expand with every catalog.    And of course we now have the introduction to Bluetooth control.

I'm one of those who, like you, is enjoying LC+. I get tired of reading that LC+ is entry level, as if anyone in the hobby for any length of time is spending $1000 and more for engines or has room for the large curves they need. I'm very excited about the LC+ Berkshire and look forward to Lionel expanding this line.

JohnGaltLine posted:

I'm curious about this issue with the remote dropping the signal when one engine is not accessed for a while.  Can folks provide any more detail on this?  Is it only over fairly long distances?  Is it purely a time issue?  I only have a small corner of living room floor to work with at the moment, and maybe a total of 30 minutes run time on my remote, only ever running one engine at a time, so any further information is welcomed.  

JGL

It seems like its a time issue, but I haven't played around enough to say for sure.

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