I have even replaced it with a new traction tire. It still does it. I hear to use MTH traction tires, How do I know what size to get?
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How old is the "new" one...
The rubber may have lost it's elasticity. Link to MTH traction tire chart to cross reference size here
https://mthtrains.com/sites/de...ire_Chart_020414.pdf
Ordered new tire from Legacy Station. ( the only shipping option from MTH was Fedex and $14.95) and I'm not paying that much for a $1 item.
I did put a new tire on it ( lionel ) and there was good stretching to do so, but it to kept coming off, ( it's only like a year old and never been used. ) I'm afraid that no matter what I put on, is going to come off. We will see thou when the MTH tire come in. I looked at the other tires and they have a xxxxx pattern on them and seem to really be on there good.
What I've done is put a little dab of Elmers glue spread around the wheel groove. I use that white Elmers, the stuff kids use for their school projects.
Then slip on the (correct) traction tire and give it a little time to set and dry.
Just clean off any excess with a cloth or paper towel.
I use Elmers cause it's less intrusive than other types of glue, and drys quick, and looks clean afterwards, (like it was never there).
Some folks frown upon the glue to wheel trick, but I found that it works for me...
Pat C... posted:What I've done is put a little dab of Elmers glue spread around the wheel groove. I use that white Elmers, the stuff kids use for their school projects.
Just as an FYI, there are 2 types of "white Elmers" these days. One is the long-standing white Elmers glue; the other is a newer product specifically aimed at schools and children, that I suspect is less effective than the original White. I doubt that it's aimed at long life, and more at washing out of kid's clothing.
The White glue suggestion is certainly one worth trying - though I've never used it in a traction tire application. I have an older Lionel USRA 4-8-2 on the bench with a flopping traction tire. I'll try Elmers White on it - the "adult" kind.
Pat C... posted:What I've done is put a little dab of Elmers glue spread around the wheel groove. I use that white Elmers, the stuff kids use for their school projects.
Then slip on the (correct) traction tire and give it a little time to set and dry.
Just clean off any excess with a cloth or paper towel.
I use Elmers cause it's less intrusive than other types of glue, and drys quick, and looks clean afterwards, (like it was never there).
Some folks frown upon the glue to wheel trick, but I found that it works for me...
Thanks for the tip, I guess using an model paint brush ( size we had as kids) would be the best way to do it. I will try that if my order of MTH tires do not work. Someone mentioned that K-Line had engines that took narrower traction tires than the rest of the model community did, so that may be the case, and if so I wonder how one would trim the tire a little so it fit right.
I super glue mine on have done that for many years.
DOC posted:I super glue mine on have done that for many years.
Think I will refrain from that, as when you need to change them because they don't give you the traction you need, it could be a real pain to get them off
D500 posted:Pat C... posted:What I've done is put a little dab of Elmers glue spread around the wheel groove. I use that white Elmers, the stuff kids use for their school projects.
Just as an FYI, there are 2 types of "white Elmers" these days. One is the long-standing white Elmers glue; the other is a newer product specifically aimed at schools and children, that I suspect is less effective than the original White. I doubt that it's aimed at long life, and more at washing out of kid's clothing.
The White glue suggestion is certainly one worth trying - though I've never used it in a traction tire application. I have an older Lionel USRA 4-8-2 on the bench with a flopping traction tire. I'll try Elmers White on it - the "adult" kind.
Yep, I use the "White Adult Elmers"... lol... (I hope the left doesn't consider me a racist)...
I stay away from the Super Glues, and Gorilla, cause the Elmers is easier on the clean up, plus I think it's water based...
rtraincollector posted:DOC posted:I super glue mine on have done that for many years.
Think I will refrain from that, as when you need to change them because they don't give you the traction you need, it could be a real pain to get them off
Again, that's why I went with Elmers, versus the Super Glues.
Elmers provides just enough adhesion, and when a tire change is in order, it's easy to get off and clean up any residue...
Contacted Brasseur'a ( train Doctor ) and they had the correct ones. So I ordered 8 of them so I have them if needed again.
I have found traction tires to be unnecessary. When they rot or fall off nothing changes.
Not necessarily recommending it, but Bullfrog Snot can be effective as an adhesive to hold the tire on the wheel or as a complete substitute for a traction tire, but it is expensive and messy.
necrails posted:I have found traction tires to be unnecessary. When they rot or fall off nothing changes.
Funny when it thru this one it just sat there and spun it wheels. Maybe for smaller engines
I have a K-Line Allegheny, it still has it's original K-Line tires. It's got 40-50 hours of running, it's been to several modular shows. Our modules are a bit hard on traction tires as well, many times there are gaps where the modules meet, and the Atlas track edges eat tires.
Bill, you have a point. I do add weight to the handful of lighter locos. Those still have traction tires. The locos with some heft that have thrown tires seem just fine. One qualification is I can't run anything longer than 8 cars and my max grade is around 2.5 percent. I figure that has something to do with my experience.
necrails posted:I have found traction tires to be unnecessary. When they rot or fall off nothing changes.
My K-Line scale Hudson would not get a 5 car MTH set of 18" streamliners started on Gargraves flex-track without a push after it threw its tires at a show; just spun its wheels.
rtraincollector posted:Contacted Brasseur'a ( train Doctor ) and they had the correct ones. So I ordered 8 of them so I have them if needed again.
Be careful not to over-stretch while them putting on.
Super glue them and when it is time to change in they are not hard to remove.
I like rubber cement for holding tires
