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I obtained a low/not run K-line plymouth switcher.   

It runs reverse great.

Nuetral from reverse, it creaps and hums.  I think this points to the reversing board as a problem.

Forward only 1/3 speed and sluggish

Nuetral from forward.  In nuetral, no humming.

All the lights work.  Front/rear lights cycle correctly.   Smoke unit off/untested.   I am leaving it off until the forward/nuetral is resolved.  Motor works freely forward/reverse.

I am thinking this is a problem with the reversing board.   Do I need the one specifically for the Plymouth?  Does it also power the smoke unit/lights.  Or can I use a Dallee or similar reverse board?

From now on, engines with electronics will not be purchased by me at York bandit sales unless they can be tested.

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I'm afraid that the board is specific.  It does pass power through to the lights and smoke unit.  I repaired one of these for a gentleman who was experiencing some of the same problems.  The fault ended up being the motor itself.  A parts breakdown is available on the Lionel support site, but most parts are out of stock.  I located a bare motor elsewhere, then pulled & re-installed the worms onto the new motor shafts.  Good as new!

@lehighline posted:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you have another issue getting ready to bite. The smoke unit in your Plymouth has zinc pest. All those crazy cracks are zinc pest hard at work. May as well start looking for a replacement for that as well.

Chris

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Since the smoke unit isn't visible, would it be possible to delay the day of reckoning by spreading a coat of epoxy on the zinc pest?

I doubt that @VHubbard wants to think about it, but Trainz has several complete engines available.  Could buy one, test it, swap shells if it functions properly, then sell the bad unit as a project.

To be clear, the photos that I added are not the inside of VHubbardVHubbard's Plymouth Switcher.  They were for reference only, and to illustrate the limited space available inside the locomotive.  After replacing a bunch of poor factory wiring, the motor, and repairing a bad solder joint on the board, the owner of the pictured loco wasn't interested in also replacing the smoke chamber.  The zinc rot actually wasn't as bad as it looks, and the smoke unit was functional.  At this point, the cracking was only superficial.  I have seen entire smoke units and individual parts available online.  At the time, I did wonder if a thin coat of JB Weld might reinforce the cracked area.  I'm sure the owner is still happily running it.

It will work until it doesn't. The likely scenario is the cracks will eventually get deep enough to penetrate into the reservoir. Then any smoke fluid inside will be outside with all the attendent problems, primairly smoke fluid being exactly where it should not be. The JB Weld trick will hold the unit together for a quite a while. But it will not stop the chemical deterioration.

Chris

P&O

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