Legacy E6 Penn Atlantic Showed Up Today

Neat loco, one of my favorites.    I bought a used TMCC with ERR upgrade off a forum fella a few years back.  It is a great reliable runner.

Thanks for the comments!  Would like to know if the marker lights above the boiler are supposed to light up?

I don't have that exact model, I have the Great Northern one. They do light up on that version. Hope this helps.

Seems there are minor differences in the marker lights on the boiler; saw some videos where those that do light up have green glass lenses in the sides; mine do not.

RickM46 posted:

Seems there are minor differences in the marker lights on the boiler; saw some videos where those that do light up have green glass lenses in the sides; mine do not.

Those are actually Class Lights, and for letting trackside workers, station agents, and interlocking Towermen, know what the classification of the train is, that the locomotive is hauling.

1) White Class lights, or white flags, indicate an "Extra" train.

2) Green Class lights, or green flags, indicate that a "Second Section" is following close behind at a safe distance.

3) No Class lights illuminated, indicate a regularly scheduled train.

4) Red Class Lights, indicate that the locomotive is operating in reverse (backing up).

Maybe the era of that model is such that the Pennsylvania RR no longer used Class Lights, thus they are not illuminated.

RickM46 posted:

Seems there are minor differences in the marker lights on the boiler; saw some videos where those that do light up have green glass lenses in the sides; mine do not.

Thats odd,  perusing the internet,every other Lionel e6 has the markers with both lenses and they light up, even TMCC versions.

It almost looks like the factory installed the incorrect marker lights. Those look like they belong on a Lionchief engine or something.

Hot Water posted:

RickM46 posted:

Seems there are minor differences in the marker lights on the boiler; saw some videos where those that do light up have green glass lenses in the sides; mine do not.

Those are actually Class Lights, and for letting trackside workers, station agents, and interlocking Towermen, know what the classification of the train is, that the locomotive is hauling.

1) White Class lights, or white flags, indicate an "Extra" train.

2) Green Class lights, or green flags, indicate that a "Second Section" is following close behind at a safe distance.

3) No Class lights illuminated, indicate a regularly scheduled train.

4) Red Class Lights, indicate that the locomotive is operating in reverse (backing up).

 

Maybe the era of that model is such that the Pennsylvania RR no longer used Class Lights, thus they are not illuminated.

Yes.

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The E6 - typically I only go for the PRR's zoomy locos (S-1, S-2, T-1, Q's, and such), but the E6 hot rod is one that I really admire. I like the looks, too - good homely. I have one of the TMCC versions, lettered for the ATSF (got it used). That way the Hudsons wouldn't spot it.

Yes, they should light up. 

SJC posted:

Yes, they should light up. 

Hi SJC, got a picture of what yours look like?

Although the lights on your model's smokebox are mounted in what would otherwise be traditional class light location, on your model they are marker lights.  Prior to the 1940s the Pennsy mounted marker lights on the pilot beam and class lights on the smokebox.  Early in the 1940s the Pennsy stopped using class lights and moved the marker lights to the top of the smokebox as on your model.  The markers in the new location did not have lenses on the side like the older style class lights.  The lenses on your model's marker lights should be red and they would only be illuminated at night during reverse movements.  There are previous posts on this forum with more information on this subject

BTW, I think your engine looks great.  Enjoy!

Scott, thanks a bunch for the info.  Looks like my E6 is true to the Pennsy design with marker lights on the smokebox with no lenses on the side - got to hand it to Lionel there.  Their front lenses are green and are very dimly lit, only visible with no room lights on.  During daylight, the dim lights are not visible - so, my first statements about them being unlit were wrong - DOH!  Nonetheless, I am watching it going around my living room layout and liking it.  Happy Camper!

I stand corrected Rick, its also good to hear your lights are actually illuminated as well. Enjoy your new locomotive!

RickM46 posted:

SJC posted:

Yes, they should light up. 

Hi SJC, got a picture of what yours look like?

I wish. It’s currently back at Lionel for a third time.............

SJC posted:

RickM46 posted:

SJC posted:

Yes, they should light up. 

Hi SJC, got a picture of what yours look like?

I wish. It’s currently back at Lionel for a third time.............

SJC

       I purchased my E6 #460 in the first release of the Legacy engines. That is when Lionel had trouble with the smoke units. I sent mine back to them 6 times finally Lionel sent me a refund. But I already purchased the Lindbergh car set. So I bought another E6 #and 460 and guess what more smoke issues, Finally Mike Regan at Lionel fixed it and it has been perfect ever since. I really like it great small steam engine with whistle steam and great smoke (now). Keep the faith I am sure they will get your running soon.

JohnB

John B, Mike knows his stuff about smoke units; fixed my Big Boy units and they smoke better than new.  However, since that, I have repaired Big Boy's main stack due to a resistor failure - easy access, Lionel had all the parts (PCB board, fan motors, reservoir, packing, screws, funnel), took my time, fellas on the forum helped me through it - priceless!

RickM46 posted:

John B, Mike knows his stuff about smoke units; fixed my Big Boy units and they smoke better than new.  However, since that, I have repaired Big Boy's main stack due to a resistor failure - easy access, Lionel had all the parts (PCB board, fan motors, reservoir, packing, screws, funnel), took my time, fellas on the forum helped me through it - priceless!

That is the trouble with the E6 lack of space, as a few repair guys have said “they packed too much crap into a small space” . Getting the shell back on is a big problem. The Big Boy does not have that problem . In addition I am all thumbs. Can’t fix a darn thing.

JohnB

John B, I hear you; GRJ also commented that getting the shell back on is a nightmare; guess that is true of the small locomotives like the E6 and H10; think I'll stay away from that.

RickM46 posted:

John B, I hear you; GRJ also commented that getting the shell back on is a nightmare; guess that is true of the small locomotives like the E6 and H10; think I'll stay away from that.

Given all the toys on the H10, its not the worst. Theres a fair amount of wires but plenty of room for them.