Legacy Engine Questions

Joe,

For the BNSF engine try reloading the memory module and doing an engine reset. If both fail open up shell and see if wires are connected to ground lights. If all else fails contact Lionel.

For the KCS engine try loading the module again and read the first couple pages of manual which describe how to set engine number etc. If that does not work contact Lionel tell your problem and they will most likely send you a new module. An engines sounds are not received by the module. An engines sounds are specific to each unit. All the module does it give you the legacy controls and is a faster way of uploading information.

Lastly for the MoPac engine I would try lubricating them. Never heard of using powdered graphite on the coupler. The couplers are electro-magnetic so it is probably something electronic that is not working right. Again if all else fails contact Lionel.

Hope this helps. I find that letting Lionel's service team in OH take care of the issue is much better than trying to fix it yourself. The electronics in Legacy engines are extremely complicated and packed tight.

-Mike

I had a Northern coupler not open until I pulled on it. Now it seems to work reliably.

On your KCS engine; do you happen to have another engine already in your CabII roster with the same engine ID #? I tried to load my new DD35 with engine ID "72" and couldn't do it since I already had another engine ID 72 already loaded. I wound up reversing the new engine ID to "27" and then was able to load the orange module.

Powdered graphite is a dry lubricant.

Legacy diesels aren't all that bad when it comes to taking the shell off.  The wiring for the most part is neatly tied up.  You still have to be careful, but it's not scary.  I've had the shell off my Legacy SD80's a number of times for various reasons and I haven't had any issues yet.  My TMCC GP9 is a different story

I just got the NYC s2 and found that a drop of oil was needed to get the couplers working, they also need 18 volts to work.

Guys,

Thanks for all the responses.

First: Audi had the correct answer for the S-2. I tried everthing but was sitting at 16 to 17 volts. Amazing what 18 volts get you. So the Mopac is working great now.

Second: I loaded the BNSF ES44 memory module to the engine numbered assigned to the KCS Es44 and renamed the engine and number back to the KCS engine manually. Now all works perfect there.

Third: The BNSF ES 44 ground lights. I had already tried resetting and reloading the modules - may try it again. I am thinkibg they are not pluged in. Thinking about opening it up. What screws do I use - I am guessing the 8 larger ones (not the 4 on the tanks)

Thanks again

Joe

Ok all engines work now - Thanks for all the advice.

I took the shell off the BNSF unit this morning and looked at the connections. The ground lites looked plugged in correctly, but I unpluged them and re-plugged them in anyway will I was there. I found a wire that had been crushed between the frame and shell close to the back and I put some electrical tape on it and re routed it. There are two wire nuts connecting all the wires together close to the back motor. They both fell right off. One I was able to rework, the other one was simply to small. I luckily had a wire nut just slightly larger and this was able to hold all the wires. Put it back together and everthing works great.

I think the exposeed wire was part of my back up light problem. It worked sometines and not others. The back up light and ground lights could have been caused by the loose wire nuts.

Heads up there - this might be the fix on other engines.

Thanks

Joe

Joe - I know about the wire nut problem in the ES44AC # 6431. See my blog post from last year: http://bobotstrains.blogspot.c...es44ac-internal.html

Wish I had saw your blog earlier, However thats exactley what I found. I just starting laughing when I saw how small the wire nut was and how many wires they were trying to get into it. I just used a slightly larger wire nut. It works now.

Joe