Lionel 1.5 Upgrade

Did you try using the low speed setting in the LSU program?

Yes, I did, what I am trying to figure out is maybe a complete factory reset or de installing the Tripp lite software, the Lionel software and starting from scratch, or trying to find a local person that has the soft ware in the black module that i can just borrow and do the upgrade.

I try your suggestion again. I am using an older laptop so that might be the issue as well..

Thanks

If you want to drive to SE-PA, I'll do the updates for you.

I unloaded the Trip Lite software and mapped the ports, still maps to the com port 3. Will try  off load and re load the Lionel Utility.

ok where in SE PA?

How do I get in touch with you? email?

Click on the name, and look at the right side of the profile.  Click on the "Extended Profile" link and my email address is there.

I live in the center of Montgomery County, very close to Skippack.

sent you an email

Hmm...  I never got anything...  Did you send it to my profile email address?

Gunrunnerjohn,

Thought  I did, but I finally figured it out.

Lionel's directions and video failed to inform folks that they need to have the base plugged in for the actual connection to happen. You need power. Call it silly or stupid, but I followed the Lionel video and read the instructions carefully.

Quite frankly,  I only figured it out after re reading the instructions a bunch of times.

The first mention of a power requirement is when you go to up load the module to the base where it says "unplug the base, push the channel button while turning the power on." Stupid me for not know this 13 pages into the upgrade documentation. Meaning, page 13 bullet point 8 is the first time the power requirement is mentioned at all.

So bottom line, unless you have the power on the base you cannot write the new V1.5 software to the black module.

Going to the Lionel site and watching the instructional, again no mention of the power being needed until around the middle of the video when he mentions inserting the module in the base, press the channel button while inserting the power cable into the base.

That is the only time, i think, need to look at it again, where the need for power is mentioned.

Again, I guess I should have know that power is needed on the base in order to write the black module.

K

Yep, always helps to have power.  Another lesson learned.

Yes electronic devices work better when power is applied

Without wishing to sound harsh, I really don't think that you can blame Lionel's instructions here.

as a teacher of 47 years, students are getting more and more dependent on computers telling them what to do and reading menus than reading a sheet of instruction.  In best terms students lack savey now days.  They cant even read an old fashioned clock unless the time is in number form like a computer.  Math longhand, forget it, calculators are the only way.  Ask you kid to make change the old fashioned way and I bet they will not know how.  These kids are now adults, that is why you can't blame them.  Its the way the govt tells us we have to teach.

PSU 1980 (K)

Don't feel bad, I did the same thing as you. YOU are right, the instructions do not say you need POWER. OH WELL, LOL

Fred

Fred. 

I wasn't going to bring that up!  Lol. 

Marty

You were just trying to be nice!!

Fred

Does anyone know of a dealer (or other source) for the black Legacy modules?  I received my Legacy system this past December and recently realized that it's Version 1.4.  I'd like to update it to 1.52; however, it sounds like I need at least one, maybe two, black modules to do it.  I emailed Lionel today and they basically told me to buy them from a dealer.  Any help would be much appreciated!

You only really need one module, I would try the bigger stores

Or wait for Jon to chime in with his normal suggestion to mod a blue one

Oh wait there is a video now

The Lionel Store has them listed

http://www.lionelstore.com/pow...-utility-module.html

Pretty low class, he ripped off my pictures for his video!   I can't imagine why you need a video anyway, it's pretty simple,

So sad you think it's a waste of time Chris, but some folks would rather spend that $20 on other items.

I never said it was a waste of time, I have 4 of the modded modules myself. I just said you would be here to say to try to mod one. I was commenting on your predictability to suggest modding one, not on the merits of modding one

I do wish I had kept one set of the stock blue modules as a disaster recovery set, I almost thought I was in trouble with my 993 set because I didn't have a good 1.2 set

And he has several videos that looks like he used outer peoples stuff, guess he translates them

Got mine from The Train Station in Mountain Lakes, NJ. Charles Ro, Trainworld all had them a few weeks ago

Forgot to tell you all you need is one, just repeat the process. I paid $19.95 for mine. Way to much, borrow on if you can or search the Internet, thSKU number is 6-37125, Legacy Writable Utility Module.

I'm still using the modify blue ones the way john did them originally.  three updates no issues. 1.4, 1.51, 1.52.

There shouldn't be any issues.  The module is being made to write.  Pretty simple.

And Gunrunner don't be angry, be flattered.

I was more amused than anything else, it was a surprise to see my graphic pop up in the video.