Lionel #165 Operating Crane Motor Needed

not sure if this is what you want https://www.ebay.com/itm/39390...4:g:738AAOSwcD1h9fBT

That eBay seller is Trainz, a forum sponsor.

JDH, if you are not sure you could just call Trainz but, I think Bill identified what you need, the armature.

Thanks Bill and Dan! I had seen this item on Trainz, but it didn't look like a complete motor. I will contact them and see if it is complete, and if I will be able to attach my worm gear to it. Thanks again, John

It is not a complete motor, only the armature.  From your description, Bill and I both concluded that “winding” meant the armature winding.  Now I am thinking that you might mean the motor field winding.

The attached image is a basic Lionel AC motor showing the parts.  IT IS NOT THE MOTOR YOU NEED.  Your motor would be 165M-1 (complete motor).  The only parts with “winding” are the armature (165M-08) and the field (165M-4).  The field was never available as a separate part.  If you need the field your choices are: 1) find a used motor or, 2) rewind the field.

I would still contact Trainz, they might be able to help, in some way.

I used The Motor Doctor to do some work on my #60 trolley. Great job and great support. I don’t know if this is something he does, but you could check him out.

@texgeekboy posted:

I used The Motor Doctor to do some work on my #60 trolley. Great job and great support. I don’t know if this is something he does, but you could check him out.

Excellent suggestion.  Considering how rare this motor seems to be, rebuilding it may be the best alternative.

Thanks again, Dan

   Your diagram helped me determine that it is indeed the field winding. I have used the Motor Doctor in the past with good results on a Locomotive. It seems to me that the field will hard to rewind because it doesn't seem to be removable from the motor's frame. I will contact him for an opinion re: a rebuild.

   Meanwhile I will also keep an eye out for a replacement. If anyone knows of a working motor, let me know.

Thanks to all! John