lionel 1931460 PT Tender trouble

John, ….first thing, tell us how you’re operating this engine, ….under command?..conventional?…power supply?…or transformer type?.

Pat

Owning the Visionline Niagara, I can ell you number 1 you better have added a LOT of fluid. No kidding, this is a large smoke unit and due to the remote location of the filler neck on mine, taks boh patience and understanding of how the fluid has to flow to fill the smoke unit.

Second part is, like any unit with a hose or duct can get a drop of fluid blocking the output.

Last, these are thermistor based Legacy design smoke units, and while I cannot claim to understand how and what the logic is doing with that temperature sensor, what I can say is, drop rack power for several seconds and apply again, and the cycle runs hotter resistor temp for the first couple of seconds.

In the Niagara, the tender also had to be moving, not still for water scoop effect to function.

I think your poduct number is off? Anyway, found a relevant manual it it's similar to the VL Niagara.

1931460?

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...1450250LegacyJ3A.pdf

I think that is wrong it takes way more than 20 drops on first fill. Not unlike most modern dual smoke front units.

Best if you angle the tender to help the fluid flow in.

@harmonyards posted:

John, ….first thing, tell us how you’re operating this engine, ….under command?..conventional?…power supply?…or transformer type?.

Pat

And, as pointed out, very important to know how you are controlling.

Again, that note about tender and engine must be moving.

Hi pat,

running it with a legacy control that’s the only way to operate the tender steam

Thank you gentleman I do have the tender moving and did put smoke fluid in and if you add them all up it was somewhat over twenty, which when I called the dealer stressed to me it to overfill it

I will have to try the track power lower that’s high again thanks it’ll be a day or two till I can get back to it I’ll let you guys know if any of it worked

thanksnagain

I believe the filler hole has a plug. Make sure the plug is seated or fan air will escape from the filler hole with little out of the overflow pipes.

Pere