I asked Dave Olson in another thread about the sound set in these cars. Below is his response and wanted to share in case others are wondering as well.
The sound set will be based off of the sounds used in the PS-1, but modified. Less banging, more clickety clacks.
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Thank you, you've saved me money as I was going to order one!
I've sat and listened as a tanker trains passed. Some flange squeal, a flat spotted wheel, maybe geese honking... Very little clickety clack around here nowadays, maybe at a crossing or switch. No banging, not from boxcars or gondolas or hoppers or flatcars or engines. None. Cost me money to send my PS-1 car back for a refund without ever unpacking it after viewing the videos with all the senseless banging emanating from the car.
I wonder if the car still senses that it's on a curve?
Engineer-Joe posted:I wonder if the car still senses that it's on a curve?
From either the interview with Notch 6 or the Ryan and Dave show (can't remember which), I got the impression that it will bot as they said it is supposed to sound different than the Vision cars.
In actual practice, just having one sound car doesn't cut it. You need a couple of them spaced out through the train for the effect to be right. Having more than one makes the noises that come out of them seem much more random and the stereo effect helps mask exactly which cars are making the noise. Just one car in the train is too direct and localized for it to work. With a few cars, some are squeaking and clunking while others bang and visa versa and it works quite convincingly.
Boilermaker1 posted:In actual practice, just having one sound car doesn't cut it. You need a couple of them spaced out through the train for the effect to be right. Having more than one makes the noises that come out of them seem much more random and the stereo effect helps mask exactly which cars are making the noise. Just one car in the train is too direct and localized for it to work. With a few cars, some are squeaking and clunking while others bang and visa versa and it works quite convincingly.
That maybe why I liked the ethanol set so much. Even the grandkids like it when they are in a train.
The part that sucks is they don't have command control for me, that's a deal breaker.
I like the boxcars with sounds and plan to get a tanker sound car or two.
I'm still torn on whether or not I want one. The lack of command control doesn't bother me, but I'd just like to hear a recording of the tank cars before the preorder deadline so I can make my decision.
I missed these! Now I have to go back and look again. I love sound cars, so now it looks like I will get something out of the catalog.
Maybe @Dave Olson could post a clip if it's available? It might not even been recorded yet.
I bought one of the earlier sound boxcars, but I'm holding out for some command capable sound cars like the Vision Line stuff. I have several sets of the PFE Reefers, a set of the Ethanol tank cars, and the PRR cattle car. I'm considering dropping an ERR MC into the conventional sound car to allow remote control. I could also put a relay on the min/max switch so I could remotely select that as well.
I am on the fence about ordering the new sound car also. Would love to hear it beforehand...I love how the PFE VL sounds, but not so much the banging of the boxcars. I wish I could find a set of the VL PFE Reefers.
roll_the_dice posted:I wish I could find a set of the VL PFE Reefers.
Here you go, at a decent price too: VL PFE Reefers
Thanks Rick! I have been looking all over and thought I checked Charlesro out...much appreciated!
I have 2 sets of the VL PFE refers and 2 of the sound box cars. The VL refers are great but I find that, except for showing off to visitors, rarely use all of their capabilities. So essentially they spend most of their life functioning the same as the sound box cars. One note, the sound bytes used on the VL refers are a little bit different than the ones in the box cars.
I think they should add a novelty sound of a cold one pouring into a mug... but that's me.
I plan on getting at least one. These cars are super fun, which is what this hobby is all about to me. I love running a long unit tank car train, and the sound cars will add a whole new element of fun to the mix.
Maxrailroad posted:I plan on getting at least one. These cars are super fun, which is what this hobby is all about to me. I love running a long unit tank car train, and the sound cars will add a whole new element of fun to the mix.
Geez Max, ruin it for everyone by having fun! LOL! 
have these cars arrived yet? soon?
Lionel's shipping schedule shows November 2018.
Neal Jeter
Engineer-Joe posted:have these cars arrived yet? soon?
Above from Lionels website
Availability will be just like the box cars. Order one or you won’t get one. I lucked out after not ordering the box car due to the negative posters here. When I heard the box car at York that changed everything. I got the last one from a vendor advertising here.
So??? Anybody get these yet? Any videos??
Just seems like another one slipped thru the cracks.
Engineer-Joe posted:So??? Anybody get these yet? Any videos??
Just seems like another one slipped thru the cracks.
Youtube is your friend Joe! 
Heres video ( not mine).
If I were to pick nits, theres to many "clickety clacks" for a modern car riding on welded rail 
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Sound demo starts at 4:00.
RickO posted:If I were to pick nits, theres to many "clickety clacks" for a modern car riding on welded rail
Maybe Rick, but if you're modeling the 1930's and 1940's, that would be prototypical. The should just put those sound boards in 40' boxcars.
gunrunnerjohn posted:RickO posted:If I were to pick nits, theres to many "clickety clacks" for a modern car riding on welded rail
Maybe Rick, but if you're modeling the 1930's and 1940's, that would be prototypical. The should just put those sound boards in 40' boxcars.
Funny you should say that John. I'm waiting to see how the "simplified" reefers with sounds are when they get delivered.
I'm interested in supplimenting the VL reefers on my "steam era" layout.
Those tankers sound decent, not all of the crazy banging of the PS1 cars.
Yep, I was disappointed in the sound cars, but I love my Vision Line tank cars, I even rounded up a second set of those. The PEF reefers I have sound fine, but the conventional sound cars were less convincing.
I just searched Utube again last night and did not get that video? Urggg. Thanks for sharing that.
I like the extra click clack as it sounds like it could be coming for all the cars in the trains. Most people don't like it, but trains are real noisy. If they were exact copying realism in sounds, it would be so bad no one would want it. That sheer squealing on curves of real trains drives me insane.
Wow I think that's great. Now I need to get some of them tankers ...
I have 3 PS-1 boxcars & 1 Tank car. They sound pretty much the same to me. They are more convincing spread out within a long train & you really need more than one. I'd like to hear more continuous squealing & a lot less clunking or no clunking at all. BTW, what is that clunking?
I have 3 PS-1s and one tank car. I like them all. I prefer more flange squealing than banging sound, but I do like that when switching. You shove some cars with the engine, and there is banging as soon as the car moves, simulating the noise when real freight cars are shoved together. In a train moving on the main line, the banging would occur as the slack runs in and out.
I can see why you might not like that if your train is just running at a constant speed and level grade, all the banging makes less sense then.
That makes total sense now, since I do more running at a constant speed than switching.
Engineer-Joe posted:That maybe why I liked the ethanol set so much.
I have matching ECO-ENERGY TEIX ethanol tanker sets; one sound, one non-sound. I do not like the sound car as it sounds to me like someone is inside the tank banging on the side with a spike maul plus I have never heard liquid inside a tanker sloshing around.
PRRMP54 posted:Engineer-Joe posted:That maybe why I liked the ethanol set so much.
I have matching ECO-ENERGY TEIX ethanol tanker sets; one sound, one non-sound. I do not like the sound car as it sounds to me like someone is inside the tank banging on the side with a spike maul plus I have never heard liquid inside a tanker sloshing around.
Haven't laughed so hard in a while!
Pat
irish rifle posted:Haven't laughed so hard in a while!
Pat
Thank you, I am glad to have brightened your day a little bit!
My Archer Daniels Midland one arrived yesterday. It is my 2nd freightcar sounds car (I have a BN boxcar). These are fun cars. I only hope that they come out with something lettered for NS or DT & I.
ironman1 posted:I have 3 PS-1 boxcars & 1 Tank car. They sound pretty much the same to me. They are more convincing spread out within a long train & you really need more than one. I'd like to hear more continuous squealing & a lot less clunking or no clunking at all. BTW, what is that clunking?
I too prefer more rail squeal to the clunking. Thought the clunking was to represent a wheel flat spot more than a rail joint.
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