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I'm organizing my steam locomotives and came across one that is confusing me.  It is a gray Prewar 224E that has a black steam chest and the 2689w tender has a tabbed coupler.  These have been a pair since I was a child in the early 50's and I'm sure my father bought them used as he could never afford to buy anything new.  I have found photos of the gray with black chest but have not seen a tender with the tabbed coupler, I thought these were only prewar tenders.  First question, did the gray 224E come with black parts at one time and second did the 2689W ever come with a tabbed coupler?  Two photos attached.

 

As always, thank you in advance.

 

Bum

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Lionel locos didn't have knuckle couplers until after WWII.  I have a 224 that was given me in 1941 for Christmas, and it had the old stule "lift" coupler.  I remmeber Lionel advertising after the war that it now had "real RR knuckle couplers." 

 

By the way, I replaced the tender rear truck with a knuckle and still run the loco.

Switching the trucks make sense as I didn't have prewar cars when I was a kid and I do remember running this with the couple old cars that I had.  I have seen more photos of the locomotive entirely gray than gray and black so I assume they were made both ways.  I do like the set and I thank you all for the information.

 

Bum 

Your tender is correct according to Greenberg's guide, however the knuckle coupler is wrong!! I agree with 'eddie g' that somebody switched the truck assembly over to post war.

 

I have the 224E with diecast tender in black and it has the pre war box & pin coupler on the tender. Also have the 249E engine and tender and it has the box & pin coupler as well.

 

Lee Fritz

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