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Awhile back at Edison, I bought a pair of Lionel 253 automatic block signals. These are the ones that have the automatic stop feature instead of the contactor to change the lights.

They both operate well at stopping the train and restarting it. The only issue is the lights. They're supposed to change from red to green once the train restarts. Both have an issue where both lights are on all the time. I'm a little confused as to how and why they act like this.

If anyone has run into these issues as well, let me know how to fix this.

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The red light should go out, as it is controlled by a contact.  But the green light depends on the the motor resistance being low enough to drop the voltage across the bi metallic strip heater to near zero to go out. Proper operation of the green lamp would depend on having the correct lamp, a motor with low enough resistance, and the heater having high enough resistance.   As I recall the green light may never go out, it just gets brighter and dimmer.  Try the signal using a larger locomotive or even a twin motor locomotive and see if you get better results.  

I wounded of the resistor in the base of the signal is open. That would put the two lamps in series, so they would come on at the same time.  The design is this signal is typical of Lionel’s mid 1950 design in where they used metal frames and bus bars in the electrical path. Assembly was by tubular rivet or speed nuts. These connections tend to loose conductivity over time. They may need to be disassembled and cleaned or shunted with solder.  Also, sometimes just spraying the connections with DeOxit D5 will restore conductivity.   A high resistance connection would have the same effect as an open resistor. 

I think disassembly of the signal will be required.  You will need to be very careful of the three leads going up the pole to the lamps. Use a meter or jumpers to see if a high resistance joint or open resistor is the problem. 

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