Lionel 6-85024

Yeah, not really surprised i got no response, no reply. this will make 3 in a row with out any advise. i guess its more of a pick a choice what gets commented on. ill be quite before i say more

Are you turning the Legacy remote on to that engine before powering up the track ?

Have you tried re-programming it with a different ENG ID # ?

Is the cab light blinking ?

Do other Legacy engines function correctly on this track ?

Dale, I just happened to look at this post out of curiosity.  Seeing the Title in the Recent Posts, it resembles a for sale listing, maybe this is why it hasn't gotten more attention.  If you were to edit the Title to something like "Help Need with Runaway Legacy Locomotive 6-85024" it may get more attention.

thanks for the advice on the titles. i kind of got my hand slap awhile ago because it was too long and need to be much shorter. but never the less, thank for your reply.

Richie, yes everything is off when i put it on the track.no blinking lights for codes. i have tried several different id numbers with no luck. i have 16 other Legacy engines that all work perfect. this one here is just being a bugger bear. but again, thanks for your reply

Dale, I'm fairly new to legacy, but old to troubleshooting electronics in general.  As you are probably aware, it could very well be a bad circuit board component, but before that assumption is made, I would suggest "exercising" the connectors inside the loco.  By this I mean, unplugging and reconnecting them, one at at time.  Oxidation between compression connections can build-up over time. Sometimes just disconnecting and reconnecting will get things working again.  Same for wire nuts.  And of course it's always a good idea to take good pictures of the connections from different angles before starting, in case there's a question later about where something goes.

Dale,

Did you try to run this in any other mode, such as conventional?

As you have "tested" your Legacy control system with your other motive stock, I would agree with Steve in that its either a bad component (board) or possibly a loose connection.

All,

thanks for your help as it’s is the board. While waiting for Lionel to ship me a new board.       ( last one took 7 weeks to receive)  I bought another little switcher S-4 Alco. Ran great new out of the box for 5 days. No issues great little switcher to make up and brake downs trains. On the 6 th night I had been running 3-4 minutes , had it sitting at idle while another engine hooked up, looked over at it and smoke was bellowing out of the bottom, grabbed it off the track and the middle of the cab had melted to the smoke unit. Maybe I’m not supposed to run small engines?

Hi,

I don't want to be offensive, but you complained earlier about people not responding to your requests for help.  Let's analyze your last post and see what might be the problem.

First, the only description of the item with issues is an "Alco S-4."  People that might want to help you need more to go on than that.  How about indicating manufacturer, product number, type of operating system (command or conventional) and any other detail that might be relevant to the situation?  Providing assistance should not require the assister to be a detective.

Second, you say that the "middle of the cab had melted to the smoke unit."  Now, that may certainly be the case, but I'm not aware of many smoke units being positioned close enough to an engine cab to cause melting, particularly when discussing diesel engines.  Could it be that you meant the engine body or hood had melted?  In any regard, pictures of the damaged unit would have been very helpful in at least starting a diagnosis.

Third, your last post had nothing to do with the original thread except the commonality of model engine problems.  Perhaps a new thread, titled "Bad Smoke Unit?" would get some suggestions of how to diagnose and fix the problem?

You are correct that many more people will look at concise thread titles, but they have to be a little more descriptive than just a product number.  I first looked at this thread because I thought some Lionel product might be for sale.

Just my 2 cents.

Chuck

ok, thanks Chuck for your 2 cents. i guess i really fowled this post up. my bad for not thinking it through. its all good and wont happen again.

How many volts is your transformer putting out?  I’m wondering if an over-voltage issue cooked the boards in the two locos.