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Hi all, I had a question in regards to the Lionel 624 switcher or other engines like it.

 

I currently run a few PW steam engines and thought that it might be nice to get one of these little switchers for my son for Christmas. The 624 grabbed my attention as it seemed like it was a great little engine and there are a few on fleabay right now for 55-75 dollar range.

 

I guess my question is, is the 624 a good engine/buy? If not the 624, is there something comparable in that kind of switcher engine? I prefer steam, but I don't think I'd be able to afford an equal steam switcher. Mainly looking for something fun to run around the layout with couplers at both ends to move train cars around. Not tied to roadname or type of engine.

 

Layout is conventional, primarily o-27 with some o-34 Marx curves and a few sidings.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

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The 623, 624, and 6250 are the best due to improved magnetraction over the earlier 622 and 6220. They are same mechanically and all run very well but the three later ones will pull a few extra cars. 622 actually came in two versions. The 1950 engine being slightly improved over the 1949 engine which was the first year for the NW2. Don't get me wrong, they all are fine runners just some pull better.

 

Pete

I picked up an excellent 624 over the summer. It joined a well-used 6250 and mint/NIB 6220 already in my collection. These first gen NW2 switchers (which includes the 622 and 623) debuted at the pinnacle of Lionel postwar design (late '40s/early '50s) and as someone stated, they are some of the best diesels Lionel ever built - diecast frame, wire handrails, diecast dual axle drive Magnetraction trucks, electrocouplers, F/R headlights, and sometimes a mechanical bell (622/6220). They are excellent runners and pullers (esp. low speed performance) and look fantastic. Sadly, later postwar switchers got cheaper and were almost embarrassingly so by the '60s - stamped frames, no wire handrails, single headlight, and eventually stamped single axle drive trucks w/open gearing. I will say though they've always looked bigger than scale FWIW. Not sure if that's the case though.

 

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Originally Posted by Norton:

The 623, 624, and 6250 are the best due to improved magnetraction over the earlier 622 and 6220. They are same mechanically and all run very well but the three later ones will pull a few extra cars. 622 actually came in two versions. The 1950 engine being slightly improved over the 1949 engine which was the first year for the NW2. Don't get me wrong, they all are fine runners just some pull better.

 

Pete

 

For what it's worth, I have a 6220, and I believe it to be 1949 issue, and it has Magnetraction.

Sal, they all have magnetraction but there are three different versions. The magnetraction in 1949 is different from 1950 and both are different from the 623, 624, and 6250. The earlier versions are not as effective as the third setup. If you check the parts pages at Olsens you will see different parts listed.

 

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/locos/loc622p8.pdf

 

Pete

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Originally Posted by Norton:

Sal, they all have magnetraction but there are three different versions. The magnetraction in 1949 is different from 1950 and both are different from the 623, 624, and 6250. The earlier versions are not as effective as the third setup. If you check the parts pages at Olsens you will see different parts listed.

 

http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/cd/locos/loc622p8.pdf

 

Pete

 

Thanks for the info. Yes, I have the Greenburg's repair book. Do you have further info on the third type of Magne-traction for the NW2? I did not find info on that website but I do have that same book and it shows only two types: 622/6220 (1949) and 622/6220 (1950) and for the 623, 624 and 6250 one is directed to the 1950 version. Interesting my 624 and 6250 do not match 1950 (or 1949). The truck matches the 1950 type, including the the cutouts for the rectangular magnets (a la postwar GG1), but there are no magnets (but there is Magne-traction):

 

 

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Sal, I was hoping to find a parts blowup for a 623 also. It appears the 623 went back to the magnetic axles like the 1949 engine. The parts list shows a 623-10 and 623-13 geared wheels on magnetic axles. I assume these axles were made of stronger magnets than the early 622.  Similar parts for the 622 are listed as 622-143 and 622-144. It begs the question whether the 623 magnetic axles could be made to fit the 622s

FWIW I only have an early 622 and a 623. No 1950 622.

 

Pete

Ace, is right about the possible high mileage problems.  I like to see used pieces in person to see the details that the seller may say "looks great/runs great".  

From my experience, an engine in nice cosmetic shape usually ran great.  It just showed a lack of run time, or immaculate care was given to it.  Either of which was good for me.

Looking on Dr.Bay the 18503 completed sales showing units between $68 - $85.  The 18501 going as low as $49 - $79.  Unless you were wanting a specific roadname like C&O,  I would spend the extra money and get one of the much newer units.

Thank you all for the feedback. I've got a lot to look at now. There are a few shows coming up soon that I can go and check out as well maybe find an ok deal.

I also just saw the little Lionel 8635 0-4-0 switcher too that is a neat looking little engine. And I like the look of the newer NW2 Bell Ringers that have been mentioned, I bet my son would get a kick out of them.

So many trains, so little money.

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