Lionel Allegheny 6-28011

I will soon be picking up a Allegheny. It's the 1998/1999 TMCC with road number "1601"

Only issue, there are no specs on it ANYWHERE. I know it does not have Odyssey speed control (ERR Cruise add on maybe?)

How does it compare to the JLC Allegheny besides Odyssey?

Anyone have specs, or the manual in pdf? it is about the only engine i have ever looked up that is not on Lionel's product finder!

I made a great deal for this C&O Allegheny (H-8) and a JLC H-7 in Union Pacific livery. Adding to my TMCC C&0 Mallet (H-5) and Vision Line Challenger Greyhound i am getting quite the collection of Articulated Large steamers. My Legacy Scale Mikado is looking fairly SMALL now...lol.

10/4/138:45 PM

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Gerry BurnsOGR Forum Member

Manual

10/4/139:04 PM

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Alex MOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Hi Mark,

Here's the entire parts list of this engine and tender

Alex

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Part #	Name	Sequence	Price
6208011050	2-WHEEL TRUCK / PILOT / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	1	$25.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29212" name="qty.29212" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011338	6-WHEEL TRUCK / TRAILING / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	2	$34.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29222" name="qty.29222" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011339	AXLE BEARING / PLASTIC / PILOT / TRAILING TRUCK	3	$0.80	<input class="qty" id="qty_318012" name="qty.318012" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011402	BELL / BRASS / THREADED / W/O YOKE	4	$1.80	<input class="qty" id="qty_19351" name="qty.19351" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8052165	BRACKET / CHERRY SWITCH / STEAM LOCOMOTIVE	5	$2.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_16678" name="qty.16678" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8052536	BRACKET / FRONT ENGINE PIVOT PLATE / N&W CLASS A	6	$4.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_372691" name="qty.372691" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208063521	BRACKET / MOTHERBOARD / DCDR H/S / SCALE PRR T-1	7	$3.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_26815" name="qty.26815" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011110	MOTOR MOUNT / STAMPED / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	8	$7.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372888" name="qty.372888" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208069202	BRACKET / SMOKE UNIT / NIAGARA	9	$3.10	<input class="qty" id="qty_361961" name="qty.361961" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011080	BRACKET / WIRE / FRONT / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	10	$1.20	Unavailable
6208011113	BRAKE SHOE / LH / FRONT / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	11	$2.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_17918" name="qty.17918" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011112	BRAKE SHOE / LH / MIDDLE / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	12	$2.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_19544" name="qty.19544" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011114	BRAKE SHOE / LH / REAR / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	13	$2.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_17919" name="qty.17919" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011115	BRAKE SHOE / RH / FRONT / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	14	$2.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_17920" name="qty.17920" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011116	BRAKE SHOE / RH / MIDDLE / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	15	$2.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_17921" name="qty.17921" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011117	BRAKE SHOE / RH / REAR / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	16	$2.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_17922" name="qty.17922" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011412	BUILDER PLATE / LIMA	17	$4.70	<input class="qty" id="qty_24746" name="qty.24746" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
690671M022	C-CLIP / .140" ID x .024" THK	18	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_20010" name="qty.20010" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011003	CAB / COMPLETE / C&O ALLEGHENY (EARLY) #1601	19	$65.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_318009" name="qty.318009" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011006	CAB WINDOW INSERT (YELLOW)	20	$6.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_27325" name="qty.27325" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6308053150	COLLECTOR / COMET-LONG	21	$4.20	<input class="qty" id="qty_29682" name="qty.29682" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208085170	COLLECTOR INSULATOR / BOTTOM	22	$2.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_22912" name="qty.22912" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8060336	COLLECTOR INSULATOR / TOP	23	$1.10	<input class="qty" id="qty_16731" name="qty.16731" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011320	CROSSHEAD GUIDE / LH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	24	$4.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_372890" name="qty.372890" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />

6208011100	DC MOTOR / PITTMAN / 12V / NO HARDWARE	26	$52.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_25994" name="qty.25994" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011103	DC MOTOR / PITTMAN / W/FLYWHEEL & SENSOR / ALLEGH.	26	$85.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29217" name="qty.29217" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6202965031	DCDR W/HEATSINK (HEATSINK # 6108689131)	27	$45.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_26266" name="qty.26266" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
691PCB1031	DCDR / DC MOTOR DRIVER / (NO HEAT SINK)	27	$40.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_26600" name="qty.26600" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011082	I.R. TRANSMITTER / 2-WIRE / 14" LEADS / ALLEGHENY	28	$12.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_25186" name="qty.25186" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011088	DRAWBAR / LOCO / W/2-WIRE IR / EARLY ALLEGH	28	$17.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_29216" name="qty.29216" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011515	DRIVE SHAFT / DOGBONE / 2 7/32" ctr. to ctr.	29	$4.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_22879" name="qty.22879" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011023	DRIVE SHAFT / W/WORM GEAR / FRONT / ALLEGHENY	30	$14.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29207" name="qty.29207" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011033	DRIVE SHAFT / W/WORM GEAR / REAR / ALLEGHENY	31	$15.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29209" name="qty.29209" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011240	ECCENTRIC CRANK ASSY / LEFT / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	32	$5.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29221" name="qty.29221" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011140	ECCENTRIC CRANK ASSY / RIGHT / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	33	$5.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29220" name="qty.29220" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011039	ECCENTRIC SLEEVE / .240"ID x .276"OD x .252"LTH	34	$1.10	<input class="qty" id="qty_20229" name="qty.20229" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6108057200	FAN DRIVEN SMOKE UNIT / RECT / DIESEL / 27 OHM	35	$30.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_28546" name="qty.28546" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011122	FIGURE / ENGINEER / BLUE W/BASE	36	$4.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_17923" name="qty.17923" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011015	FIGURE / FIREMAN / GRAY W/BASE	37	$4.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_17917" name="qty.17917" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208063101	FLYWHEEL / W/DRIVE COUPLING / SCALE PRR T-1	38	$16.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_318148" name="qty.318148" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011073	FRAME & WHEEL ASSY / FRONT / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	39	$90.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29215" name="qty.29215" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011030	FRAME & WHEEL ASSY / REAR / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	40	$100.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29208" name="qty.29208" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8051028	GASKET / GEAR BOX / FRONT / B&O EM-1	41	$2.10	<input class="qty" id="qty_16602" name="qty.16602" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8051031	COVER / GEARBOX / FRONT / TOP / EM-1 / 2-8-8-4	42	$3.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_275486" name="qty.275486" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8052032	GEAR BOX COVER / REAR / SCALE CLASS A	43	$3.20	<input class="qty" id="qty_16651" name="qty.16651" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011119	HANDRAIL / W/STANCHIONS / LH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	44	$10.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29219" name="qty.29219" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011118	HANDRAIL / W/STANCHIONS / RH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	45	$10.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29218" name="qty.29218" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208065131	HEAT SINK / DCDR / DCDE	46	$4.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_353673" name="qty.353673" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6501104338	HEX COUPLING / 3 mm x .5 thd x 10 mm lth	47

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6SP8051301	LAMP / 14V 80MA / CLEAR / GRAIN OF WHEAT / W/CONN	48	$1.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_16625" name="qty.16625" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
8185015009	LAMP / 18V 0.1A / CLEAR / GRAIN OF WHEAT	49	$1.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_25943" name="qty.25943" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6108082019	LAMP / 18V 50MA / CLEAR / BI-PIN (ALT: 6108011019)	50	$1.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_17483" name="qty.17483" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011214	MAIN ROD SPACER / .286"ID x .394"OD x .124"THK	51	$1.10	<input class="qty" id="qty_20231" name="qty.20231" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011034	MAIN ROD W/ CROSSHEAD ASSEMBLY / LEFT	52	$20.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29210" name="qty.29210" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011036	MAIN ROD W/ CROSSHEAD ASSEMBLY / RIGHT	53	$20.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29211" name="qty.29211" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
691PCB1036	MOTHERBOARD / R2LC / W/CHERRY SWITCH	54	$28.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_347949" name="qty.347949" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6308035116	PCB / FIREBOX GLOW	55	$4.20	<input class="qty" id="qty_25287" name="qty.25287" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011071	PILOT / 2-6-6-6 ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	56	$30.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29214" name="qty.29214" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011070	PILOT DECK / C&O ALLEGHENY (EARLY) #1601	57	$36.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_29213" name="qty.29213" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
691R2LCC08	R2LC / RADIO RECEIVER (C08 CODE)	58	$40.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_31312" name="qty.31312" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6101255187	SCREW # 4-40 x 3/16"	59	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_368677" name="qty.368677" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208704171	SCREW # 4-40 x 7/32"	60	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_19520" name="qty.19520" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8089404	SCREW # 6-32 x 3/8"	61	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_17011" name="qty.17011" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208063568	SCREW # 6-32 x 5/16"	62	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_18806" name="qty.18806" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208080244	SCREW # 6-32 x 7/32"	63	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_18833" name="qty.18833" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208323210	SCREW / PANHD / 2 mm x 10 mm x .4 thd	64	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_364018" name="qty.364018" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208063563	SCREW / 3 mm x 5.5 mm x .5 thd slvr	65	$0.40	<input class="qty" id="qty_18804" name="qty.18804" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6101100280	SCREW / FLTHD / 2 mm x 8.0 mm x .4 thd	66	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_366677" name="qty.366677" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6104537151	SCREW / FLTHD / 3 mm x 6.0 mm x .5 thd	67	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_18539" name="qty.18539" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8082312	SCREW / HEX / 3 mm x 16 mm x .5 thd	68	$0.80	<input class="qty" id="qty_275690" name="qty.275690" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208012375	SCREW / RNDHD # 4-40 x 3/8"	69	$0.30	Unavailable
6208011250	SCREW / RNDHD # 6-32 x 1/4"	70	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_372895" name="qty.372895" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6000128072	SCREW / RNDHD # 6-32 x 17/32"	71	$0.40	<input class="qty" id="qty_18376" name="qty.18376" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011375	SCREW / RNDHD # 6-32 x 3/8"	72	$0.30	Unavailable

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6208063576	SCREW / WSHRHD # 6-32 x 7/32"	73	$0.40	<input class="qty" id="qty_18810" name="qty.18810" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011007	SHELL / BOILER / C&O ALLEGHENY (EARLY) #1601	74	$200.00	Unavailable
6SP8064079	SHLDR SCR .212" x .336" x 8-32	75	$1.40	<input class="qty" id="qty_16774" name="qty.16774" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208063597	SHLDR SCR / HEX / .156" x .094" x 3 mm x .5 thd	76	$1.40	<input class="qty" id="qty_18813" name="qty.18813" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011213	SIDE ROD / LH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	77	$4.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_372877" name="qty.372877" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011212	SIDE ROD / RH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	78	$4.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_372878" name="qty.372878" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6101103202	SMOKE FUNNEL / SCALE PS-4	79	$7.40	<input class="qty" id="qty_370370" name="qty.370370" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8064532	SPRING / CENTERING / STEAM EXHAUST PIPE	80	$0.80	<input class="qty" id="qty_275568" name="qty.275568" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6308064049	SPRING / CONICAL / .022" THK	81	$0.80	<input class="qty" id="qty_322041" name="qty.322041" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6911210932	SPRING 9/32" DIAM x 7/16" HGHT x .018"	82	$0.80	<input class="qty" id="qty_365164" name="qty.365164" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011025	STEAM CHEST / FRONT & REAR / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	83	$22.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372879" name="qty.372879" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011026	STEAM PIPE / DELIVERY / LH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	84	$11.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372917" name="qty.372917" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011028	STEAM PIPE / DELIVERY / RH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	85	$11.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372916" name="qty.372916" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011190	STEAM PIPE / EXHAUST / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	86	$8.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372887" name="qty.372887" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011180	STEAM PIPE / FRONT / CENTER / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	87	$18.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372886" name="qty.372886" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011170	STEAM PIPE / FRONT / LH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	88	$6.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372884" name="qty.372884" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011175	STEAM PIPE / FRONT / RH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	89	$6.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372885" name="qty.372885" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011160	STEAM PIPE / REAR / LH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	90	$4.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_372882" name="qty.372882" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011165	STEAM PIPE / REAR / RH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	91	$4.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_372883" name="qty.372883" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8052067	STUD / .196" DIAM x .890" LNTH	92	$1.20	<input class="qty" id="qty_16654" name="qty.16654" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011150	VALVE HANGER / LH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	93	$7.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_372880" name="qty.372880" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208011155	VALVE HANGER / RH / ALLEGHENY (EARLY)	94	$8.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_372881" name="qty.372881" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6101107034	WASHER / .208" ID x .470" OD x .034" THK	95	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_361878" name="qty.361878" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6308234048	WASHER / .210" ID x .586" OD x .032" THK	96	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_368900" name="qty.368900" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />

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691PCB1039	AD20A / I.R. RECEIVER (MODULAR) / STEAM	1	$26.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_26638" name="qty.26638" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6928011T75	BATTERY BOX / ALLEGHENY TENDER (EARLY)	2	$3.20	<input class="qty" id="qty_18164" name="qty.18164" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
690671M022	C-CLIP / .140" ID x .024" THK	3	$0.30	<input class="qty" id="qty_20010" name="qty.20010" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6108129550	COIL COUPLER / MNT B / LENGTH: 2.03" / 2.0MM LEOCO	4	$10.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_30991" name="qty.30991" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6928011T20	COLLECTOR / COMET / EXTRA SHORT	5	$7.50	<input class="qty" id="qty_29981" name="qty.29981" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6208085170	COLLECTOR INSULATOR / BOTTOM	6	$2.00	<input class="qty" id="qty_22912" name="qty.22912" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
6SP8060336	COLLECTOR INSULATOR / TOP	7	$1.10	<input class="qty" id="qty_16731" name="qty.16731" style="width: 50px;" type="text" value="1" />
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10/4/139:25 PM

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kanawhaOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

I obtained a used 1999 version of the Allegheny a few years before the JLC version came out. It really was a lousy runner and smoker. I was considering getting rid of it, but just before Lionel announced the JLC version I installed a drop in EOB board and a puff and chuff smoke unit. That made all the difference in the world, in fact I think its slow speed operation is better than the JLC Allegheny (which I also have). The drop in EOB gave it 4 chuffs per rev. The new puff and chuff smoke unit is better than the one on the JLC Allegheny. However the detail on the JLC is far, far better than the 1999 version.

I've kept mine as the modified engine is a good, solid runner perfect for our modular layout shows as it doesn't have a lot of detail that can be accidentally broken off.

At the very least you will need to install an ERR Cruise M.

Ken

10/4/1310:30 PM

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C&O lineOGR Forum Member

The one I have is like muffin describes. After searching for parts for an hour or so looks like train America was highly recommended but now unavailable. So what should I do now. Really want to get two allegheny with decent speed control and see if I can get one pushin one pullin a long line of coal cars!

10/30/1310:36 PM

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C&O Line:

If I were you, I would contact Marty Fitzhenry or Alex Malliae (Forum Members) and ask their help to upgrade this engine. If I remember correctly, this was Lionel's first scale articulated engine and worth keeping in my opinion.

10/31/132:35 PM

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Lee WillisOGR Forum Member

When I went shopping for scale Alleghenies a couple of years ago, I was surprised to discover that the early model, 6-28011, was actually priced higher on the used market than the more recent JLC was, by about $150. I bought the JLC and have never regretted it, but I looked at a couple of the 28011 and they were lovely locos. You've got the link to the manual above, so good luck.

10/31/132:47 PM

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PC9850OGR Forum Member

Lionel's product finder only goes back to about 2000; you didn't see it there because this is a 1999 model. As for how it compares to the 2005 JLC version, as others have already described above it's pretty much night and day both in cosmetics and technology.

Regarding why the earlier model actually goes for the same amount of money as the JLC version on the secondary market, my only guess is for its historical significance as the model that (according to the article below) started the whole Lionel vs. MTH legal war.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20050201/mth.html