Lionel Base 3 questions

I don’t believe the Base 1 (TMCC) will work on the SER2. Your switch machine will.

@Joe Fermani posted:

After looking at the new Legacy base in the catalog, I noticed there is no more serial port on the base.  I currently use the serial port for my dz2500 switch machines and my old TMCC base.  I have the zstuff data wire driver plugged into the base which supplies all my switches with the command signal.  I would assume to continue use of that with the new base I would now need to buy the LCS serial 2 unit?  If I am thinking about this correctly, the ser2 would plug into the new base with the LCS ports. I would then plug my Zstuff data wire driver into the ser2 to get my command signal for the switches.

Sounds right to me.  I have the SER2 connected to my Legacy base, that's where the serial data for the DZ-2001 wire driver connects for me.

I was also still using the old command base (plugged in via the y adapter) so I had 2 remotes (Cab1, and Cab2).  Can I also plug my TMCC base into the LCS serial unit to still use the old remote?  Or do I need to get the new cab1L if I want a second remote?

I don't see anything about plugging in the old BASE1, so this is a @Dave Olson question.

I have the same question for plugging in my db9 plug currently plugged in to my TMCC command base which connects to all my asc 3000’s. I only have original command base and i need to figure out how to plug all my switches into the new Base 3. Everything works so well currently and i am hoping that I can easily upgrade to a Base 3 and keep all my current switches running. Not sure if just using a SER2 for DB9 plug in and then run PID cable to Base 3 will work. Looking forward to taking advantage of all the goodies in the Legacy Engines we have been purchasing. They run great with original TMCC and original Cab 1s’ but hoping to convert to Base 3 and Cab1L and Cab3 App. Any input is appreciated.
Rich

@Maddog Steel posted:

I have the same question for plugging in my db9 plug currently plugged in to my TMCC command base which connects to all my asc 3000’s. I only have original command base and i need to figure out how to plug all my switches into the new Base 3. Everything works so well currently and i am hoping that I can easily upgrade to a Base 3 and keep all my current switches running. Not sure if just using a SER2 for DB9 plug in and then run PID cable to Base 3 will work. Looking forward to taking advantage of all the goodies in the Legacy Engines we have been purchasing. They run great with original TMCC and original Cab 1s’ but hoping to convert to Base 3 and Cab1L and Cab3 App. Any input is appreciated.
Rich

Important to read the notes on the LCS SER2. It actually is a great interface device and can serve multiple functions- specifically booth providing the old 2 or 3 wie style serial data signal used with ASC 30000s while also being able to use the 9 pin standard serial at the same time, as long as on the wired interface the device is not both TX and RX.

LCS SER2 manual link from Lionel https://www.lionelsupport.com/...50SER2UsersGuide.pdf

Thanks for the info so do you agree with my plan to connect my db9 interface to the SER2 and the a PID cable to the Base3 and do you think that will work?

@Maddog Steel posted:

Thanks for the info so do you agree with my plan to connect my db9 interface to the SER2 and the a PID cable to the Base3 and do you think that will work?

Sure, you "could" use the 9 pin serial port

OR

you could use the 2 wire interface thus leaving the 9 pin serial port available for other uses.

Ok, I agree easer to use the 2 wire interface. Do i need 1 of the LIONEL LEGACY LAYOUT CONTROL SYSTEM DB9 POWER SUPPLY & CABLE o gauge 6-81499. I see this spoken about along with the purchase of SER2 but i am not sure why I should need it?? Do you agree.  Thanks so much for your help in navigating this.

Rich

@Maddog Steel posted:

Ok, I agree easer to use the 2 wire interface. Do i need 1 of the LIONEL LEGACY LAYOUT CONTROL SYSTEM DB9 POWER SUPPLY & CABLE o gauge 6-81499. I see this spoken about along with the purchase of SER2 but i am not sure why I should need it?? Do you agree.  Thanks so much for your help in navigating this.

Rich

No, not when using the Base3. This is because specifically a key design point was base3 already supplies power on the PDI ports, so you do NOT need the Y power cable and starter serial PDI chain cable set used for the older 990 Legacy base. Again, Legacy base only had serial, and could not natively supply PDI bus power. So  a special cable and power adapter was sold as a set.

Base3 was designed after LCS and PDI existed- so it natively has powered PDI ports.

Great!, Thanks again for the help!