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I may be in the minority but Lionel did a much better job with the E6 diesel than the E8 if for no other reason that the truck/ body gap is smaller. The E6 is a better looking engine with the sloping front and I can't wait for the UP version --just hope they don't have that ugly gap between the truck and body that the E8 and the 21 inch passenger cars have. 

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You'd think they would listen to their customers who complain about this.  These theoretically are not 'toy' locomotives as they are touted as Scale models and in many aspects Lionel does a very good job with them. The large gap referred to here is objectionable to many of us and some talented individuals on this forum have done some amazing work in lowering them for a much improved look. Why can't Lionel do that at the drawing table?

Personally I wish they would sell these with close coupled couplers as well and provide longer ones for customers who operate on tighter curves.

I just bought my first 'new from a dealer' locomotive purchase in several years with a beautiful AA pair of the L&N E8s. With the black trucks, the gap isn't as noticeable but its there. Guess I'll have to live with it...

"Personally I wish they would sell these with close coupled couplers as well and provide longer ones for customers who operate on tighter curves."

Correct, Sam.

It should be embarrassing that the Williams/WBB scale Alco FA's and EMD F3's couple far closer than most "high-end" diesels; my FA's couple to near-prototypical gaps. Shorter than E8's, I know - but I know someone with some Lionel high-end F3's that are so far apart it is painful to watch.

At these prices - this has been true a while - the importers should also offer steam locos with an extra pilot truck with scale wheels (I have 072 curves and don't need Ballet Dancer pilot wheels), not to mention that needless - for me - Olympic Broad Jump tender/cab gap that I can no longer just fix with a drill and a new drawbar hole.

Gah! It just keeps going on. A nice wire tether and a steel drawbar that I can drill to meet my needs is all I ask. But - we keep getting weird IR and circuit board "drawbars".

c.sam posted:

You'd think they would listen to their customers who complain about this.  These theoretically are not 'toy' locomotives as they are touted as Scale models and in many aspects Lionel does a very good job with them. The large gap referred to here is objectionable to many of us and some talented individuals on this forum have done some amazing work in lowering them for a much improved look. Why can't Lionel do that at the drawing table?

Personally I wish they would sell these with close coupled couplers as well and provide longer ones for customers who operate on tighter curves.

I just bought my first 'new from a dealer' locomotive purchase in several years with a beautiful AA pair of the L&N E8s. With the black trucks, the gap isn't as noticeable but its there. Guess I'll have to live with it...

Exactly!  Thought I was the only one that thought that way.

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