I just purchased a Lionel Engine 6-18294, the issue is the fuel tank has the optical reader on the bottom. The cab number is correct for the Lionel product ID number but not the electronics? Any thoughts?
Well more fun with this engine, all 6 wheels have flanges, one set should be blind. Just another fun fact.......LMAO
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An Alaska SD70Mac #4005 with TMCC. Can you clarify what you mean by ID number? Are you talking about the engine ID for command control? This can be changed to any two digit number.
@Calebro posted:An Alaska SD70Mac #4005 with TMCC. Can you clarify what you mean by ID number? Are you talking about the engine ID for command control? This can be changed to any two digit number.
Sorry I was not clearer, the engine has an optical sensor that is only in legacy engines…..this is the quandary.
Some one changed the fuel tank is my guess.
Yes Marty is right, someone could have swapped the fuel tank or the shell perhaps. Does the sensor actually work? Does the engine have any legacy features, or is it still TMCC?
Lionel has not catalogued another SD70Mac with the Alaska road name since the previous one with TMCC. So someone may have swapped parts in order to get an Alaska SD70 with legacy features.
@MartyE posted:Some one changed the fuel tank is my guess.
Sensor works fine, yet the engine is tmcc. In the end it works fine pulls great and can do anything with tmcc and legacy track sensor….its a freak
@Calebro posted:Lionel has not catalogued another SD70Mac with the Alaska road name since the previous one with TMCC. So someone may have swapped parts in order to get an Alaska SD70 with legacy features.
There are actually at least two Legacy Alaska Macs. One powered and one superbass. They were a custom run for Nicholas Smith, I have both.
@Calebro posted:Yes, I am aware, I have the powered version as well. I was referring to only engines catalogued by Lionel.
Yes and strange this is neither , legacy and TMCC sound. Like I said who cares it runs and ………..I like it…LMAO
thanks to all!
Like others have suggested the fuel tank is probably from another engine. This was probably one of the K-line by Lionel engines. One of the complaints with it was the fuel tank was not prototypical. As for the sensor, if it works someone has upgraded the electronics. I would not mess with it if everything works, as you said it is a great puller.
Marty
@ThatGuy posted:Sensor works fine, yet the engine is tmcc. In the end it works fine pulls great and can do anything with tmcc and legacy track sensor….its a freak
If that sensor "works fine", what does it do? Define "works fine". If the sensor does anything on a Sensor track, the engine has Legacy electronics, there's no other way it would function.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:If that sensor "works fine", what does it do? Define "works fine". If the sensor does anything on a Sensor track, the engine has Legacy electronics, there's no other way it would function.
Except it will only work properly with the TMCC commands. I only asked basically to see if anyone else had this, it runs so and works fine so TMCC or what it s not and issue
@ThatGuy posted:Except it will only work properly with the TMCC commands. I only asked basically to see if anyone else had this, it runs so and works fine so TMCC or what it s not and issue
OK, your previous post seemed to suggest the actual sensor function worked.
Might I suggest you also hold the camera horizontally so you get a much better view then the slit you get with vertical videos?
the sensor works in TMCC, the engine was serviced by Lionel a few years back. I have no idea what they did or did not do, according to the first owner it came back from them this way. Who knows in the end I was just asking if there was any other engines like this; bottom line it functions fine with some added bonuses
have a great weekend all
@ThatGuy posted:I just purchased a Lionel Engine 6-18294, the issue is the fuel tank has the optical reader on the bottom. The cab number is correct for the Lionel product ID number but not the electronics? Any thoughts?
Well more fun with this engine, all 6 wheels have flanges, one set should be blind. Just another fun fact.......LMAO
check out the above with the six wheel flanges on the trucks....this engine is truly a freaks freak.......
I guess I still don't understand if the actual sensor is doing anything such as being triggered by a sensor track?
@MartyE posted:I guess I still don't understand if the actual sensor is doing anything such as being triggered by a sensor track?
The sensor works fine, I spoke with a retired Lionel repair tech (through a friend) and Lionel had the ability to mix and match TMCC with Legacy. When they repaired out of warranty trains should a part not be available they could make it work. This engine is one of them, the interesting part is the large flexi-trucks (EMD) with all six wheels with flanges.
@Calebro posted:do you have a video? All there is are pictures.
No video as he engine has been restored to new (shell) some paint rework as such but here is a picture of a full flange 6 wheel truck. According to Lionel it should have a blind set……ahhh the fun of used. LMAO
@ThatGuy posted:No video as he engine has been restored to new (shell) some paint rework as such but here is a picture of a full flange 6 wheel truck. According to Lionel it should have a blind set……ahhh the fun of used. LMAO
That just means you can’t run on smaller curves. Lmao
@Calebro posted:That just means you can’t run on smaller curves. Lmao
Apart from the obvious, the point is they are NOT supposed to have flanges on all wheel according to Lionel. You must have missed the statement about this engine.
@Calebro posted:No, I saw it. Didn’t know that was the point you were trying to make. Lionel has made several engines with flanges on all 6 wheels.
This model did not do it was done on the rebuild……TMCC/Legacy…….optical sensor and all flanges…..my thought>……….it runs fine shell paint/numbers repaired…….great price and funky history….typical Lionel engine….lmao
@ThatGuy posted:Apart from the obvious, the point is they are NOT supposed to have flanges on all wheel according to Lionel. You must have missed the statement about this engine.
@Calebro posted:No, I saw it. Didn’t know that was the point you were trying to make. Lionel has made several engines with flanges on all 6 wheels.
Sorry about the short reply, I was doing three things at once and repairing for a friend his brand new Lionel vision line dead out of the box. Shorted radio antenna……so you received the smug answer.
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