Lionel GP-7legacy features

Good question. I have a Legacy GP for NYC and has the same features. I recently acquired a Legacy GP-35 and the tertiary sounds are not evident - the flange scraping, compressors etc. Same for lighting, although the Rule 17 feature is a nice touch. and this one cost me $10 more than the GP.

I believe the red/green marker lights was only used on the first run of GP-7's. The later ones are red only in the reverse direction. The UP 105 is unique is several respects. It is the only GP-7 with a cab beacon light, and a second headlight set that has a GOOD mars light and a red warning light (that flashes)that comes on when the brakes are applied (Like what the Milwaukee 261 should have had.) It also has a unique sound package and the cab lights only come on when the engines is not running. Good variable smoke too.

The 105 is by far the most complex GP-7 Lionel has ever made. The ends look like a Christmas tree with all the lights. Red/Green markers, lighted numberboards, headlights, Mars light and red warning light and the yellow beacon light.

"The 105 is by far the most complex GP-7 Lionel has ever made. The ends look like a Christmas tree with all the lights. Red/Green markers, lighted numberboards, headlights, Mars light and red warning light and the yellow beacon light."

 

Maybe that is why it has taklen months and I still don't have it back after the sound stopped. LHS having trouble getting replacement sound boards.

Thanks for the replies all.

Chuck,

Yes, it does indeed look like a Christmas tree.

 

Just wondering why that one received these features but the current crop of standard locos doesn't.

 

I can't recall what the retail or street price of the loco was but I don't think that it was far out of line with current offerings.

 

Except, those aren't "marker lights."  They're classification lights.  Red should only be displayed to the rear when the locomotive is at end of train as in pusher service or moving light on the main. 

 

Green is displayed forward only when running as a section of a sheduled multi-section train, except for the last section when the class lights will be off.

 

White is displayed forward only when running as an extra, or unsceduled train.

 

Normal scheduled trains do not display illuminated classification lights.

 

Rusty

Can you please let me know Lionel item number?

Rusty Yes, I understand the prototype usage, however, I'm more interested from a cost/ feature standpoint as I'm sure it was the more likely driving factor in their omission on recent locos. Mike

Exactly the reason that I disconnected the class lights on my Rock Island Legacy GP! I really like the various sounds from this model, but all those class lights were driving me nuts while switching.

I'd wager the cost of parts for the class lights on the bill of materials is fairly insignificant in the overal cost of of the locomotive, but a single color LED is less expensive than a bi-color LED.  It does eventually add up.

 

Also, less circuitry is needed to simply turn an LED on and off as opposed to reversing polarity to light the other color.

 

There could have also been a significant cost increase in the bi-color LEDs, shortages or vendor problems.  It's difficult to say and I doubt you'll get anyone from corporate to give a specific reason publicly.

 

Rusty

Lionel catalog number is 6-28567

Thank you Greg for Lionel number, now I just need to find one for sale.

Marcin,

I looked for quite a while and eventually found one for sale by a forum member.

It's a great loco to say the least.

Mike

Mike,

 

Thanks Mike, I saw YouTube video, this tread and honestly I'm so impressed. You are so lucky to have one. I will continue looking for it, but if you know of anybody that has one for sale please let me know.

 

Marcin