Lionel H9 or H10?

Externally H9 and H10 are pretty much alike in basic dimensions.    The difference between the classes Iis that the H10 has 1 inch larger cylinders.     Indivdual locos could have different details.

Now to really muddy the waters, some H8s (inside steam pipes) were rebuilt into H9s and so reclassed in the books and some H9s were rebuilt in H10s and reclassed in the books.   

I am going to make a wild guess that loco 109 could have been built as an H9.    Then at some time later in life was rebuilt or had a major shopping and was converted into an H10.     Now, it is also a good guess that they would not have changed the builders plate during an rebuild/major shopping.   

So much later in life when the loco was sold/leased to the LI, it was an H10 based on its current specifications and tractive effort.   But it may have originally been built as an H9.

Jeff2035 posted:

Did the other road names have H9 builders plates?

Were they the same as production runs from   years ago?

 

Yes and yes.

Technically, its not an accurate representation of a Prr H9 or H10.

Most notably, the boiler is too long, the wheelbase is incorrect and the Belpaire firebox is too steep.

It's really Lionels  modified NYC TMCC consolidation tooling that was masquerading as an H9,masquerading as an H10.

The MTH model is far more detailed and accurate.

MTH Vs. Lionel TMCC PRR Consolidation Versions.

I am anticipating my Lionel "H10" set from Charlie Row Next week to do additional comparisons.

IT is reported in a previous thread that the Lionel Vision line  PRR"H10" have correct Builders plates stating H9 model.

RICKO, PRRJIM, and PRRHORSESHOECURVE, thank you for the very informative posts.

They provided just the information I was looking for