In the June/July issue it says the powered unit weighs over 4.5 pounds yet it has only 1 pound 2 ounces of pulling power. IIRC in the Altas Trainman Dash review from a few months ago the weight is about the same yet the pulling power was double.
Do these really pull that poorly or was the test a fluke? A friend brought it to my attention since he is looking to purchase a pair and I had to go dig out the issue as I'd skipped it.
Anyone own a set for their first hand experiences?
Thanks
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No one owns a pair of the new Lionel E8's?
I have a few GGD trains that requiere way more than 1.2 lbs of pullling power to get em going
BOBBYD,
I have the PRR E8s, at may club's (BDSME) open house last year I pulled 6 Lionel 18" Aluminum passenger cars plus an express boxcar. We have 2.5% inclines on our layout no issues with pulling power at all. Here is a quick video:
JohnB
Thank you John,
Thought the pulling power was way low in the review and I might have changed tires to see if they were the cause or not. Told my friend if these really couldn't pull more than an A-A I'd expect we'd have heard about it by now. Nice video too!
BobbyD posted:IIRC in the Altas Trainman Dash review from a few months ago the weight is about the same yet the pulling power was double.
The pulling power is double on the Trainman Dash 8's because they have 4 traction tires per truck because there are traction tires on the "blind wheels" and on the last wheel set. You can see that pretty clearly in Erics review (at the 8:32 point of the video):
If, and this is simply wishful thinking, Atlas O built the Diesels with Legacy, that would be pleasing to me. Atlas is well made, quality control that’s really good, and their designers are color perfect. Nuff - Sayd...
MichaelB posted:because there are traction tires on the "blind wheels" and on the last wheel set. You can see that pretty clearly in Erics review (at the 8:32 point of the video):
That might be, but, that is not what he said or pointed out.
Big Jim posted:That might be, but, that is not what he said or pointed out.
Eric does glance over stuff sometimes. It might have been that he missed that because he wasn't expecting something like that to come from an Atlas model.
MichaelB posted:BobbyD posted:IIRC in the Altas Trainman Dash review from a few months ago the weight is about the same yet the pulling power was double.
The pulling power is double on the Trainman Dash 8's because they have 4 traction tires per truck because there are traction tires on the "blind wheels" and on the last wheel set. You can see that pretty clearly in Erics review (at the 8:32 point of the video):
That's interesting. Wonder why they do it as rubber tires are a pain in the #*tt maintenance issue at times. Don't have any rubber tired diesels from any manufacturer where the wheels slip. Don't recall if the review says if these were new in the box or not, yet with that poor of a tractive effort on a 4 pound locomotive I'd have swapped on some new tires!
This is my Lionel Legacy Santa Fe E8 set 6-81219 pulling 8 MTH Premier cars. I bought it new, at York in 2016 for a great price.
I have it on my layout right now pulling 10 MTH Premier cars. I have never noticed any wheel spin or laboring from this set.
The set has been perfect in every respect.
Craig, they Look and Sound really Great. Thanks for the video....Wow...
We had a pulling power gauge "pull-off" at our club a few weeks back. For a single locomotive, my Vision Line Big Boy topped the scales at just over 7 pounds of pulling power.
GRJ,
Wow, surprised you didn’t “pull off” the traction tires.
That thought crossed my mind while we were doing this experiment!
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