I am looking for UP diesel locos to pull UP 9000 series passenger cars ( produced by Lionel in 1984)
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E unit will be later production.
Thank you Marty !
In 1984 Lionel produced a set of Union Pacific F-3's diesels. They were pictured on the 1984 primer catalog cover. A "B" unit was also produced to go with the two A units plus a set of passenger cars. This set of diesels and cars had one large problem. The yellow paint didn't match.
jim sutter posted:In 1984 Lionel produced a set of Union Pacific F-3's diesels. They were pictured on the 1984 primer catalog cover. A "B" unit was also produced to go with the two A units plus a set of passenger cars. This set of diesels and cars had one large problem. The yellow paint didn't match.
Did not match UP's yellow, or the cars and locos did not match?
If memory serves, the B unit did not quite match the A-A units on some models. The yellow was slightly off, still a great set! Mine matches pretty close, and you really cant tell
Have seen some sets with 3 versions of Yellow on these aluminum cars.
Weren't these sets and the Wabash FM's among the last things made in Mexico?.
Dominic Mazoch posted:jim sutter posted:In 1984 Lionel produced a set of Union Pacific F-3's diesels. They were pictured on the 1984 primer catalog cover. A "B" unit was also produced to go with the two A units plus a set of passenger cars. This set of diesels and cars had one large problem. The yellow paint didn't match.
Did not match UP's yellow, or the cars and locos did not match?
I used to have a set, and had a good match of the yellow on the cars. However, it required picking and choosing the cars. Yellow used to be a hard color to match up with different paint batches given the paint processes available at the time, I was told.
However, the OP is interested in engines, not the cars. He doesn't say whether he needs command control or not. Obviously, the later E units will have it. However, the E units are not going to look very good with the 15" 1984 passenger cars, because the engines are so large. The best bet, at least the least expensive one, will be to find a set of the 1984 F-3s that came with the original set, and add ERR commander if command operation is desired.
MTH engines may work, although chances are the yellow shades wouldn't match the cars. The only way to check would be to compare the actual engines with the cars. Buy the engines at the auction site, check them for color match, and resell them if the color isn't good. A bit of a tedious process. Lionel also made a very nice ABA set of scale F-3 Union Pacific engines, No. 24552, a few years ago, equipped with TMCC and RailSounds 5. That would be another alternative, although I think the yellow used on the engines is more prototypical, that is, a deeper shade of yellow than the 1984 cars.
As a side note in reply to part of the topic title, MPC falls under the modern-era category of Lionel's history (anything made after 1969).
Think the scale E units might look out of place lengthwise compared to F units, color matching will depend if he has a multi shade set or a set of all one color to aim for.
John Korling posted:As a side note in reply to part of the topic title, MPC falls under the modern-era category of Lionel's history (anything made after 1969).
Not for everyone. MPC (1970-1985) is a category by itself in my book.
What, me worry?
Thanks to everyone that responded with useable information and advise.......your replies helped me avoid mistakes and I saved money ! I am new to the forum and I am very glad that I joined and "posted" . Thanks again!
