Lionel Pennsy 16 wheel depressed girder flatcar

The Lionel website says "Metal girder load". See 'Product Search".

Nice looking flatcar. It is same as K-line Die cast car. Looks great with the girder load. Might buy one for myself. 

Actually it is a re-issue of the PW Lionel 16-wheel car, not a K-Line piece. It is nominally scale, if too narrow. Very nice car. The trucks are modern Lionel, and the body is the PW tooling - or, more likely, a modern copy of it. I have a NYC version from the early 2000's, and a true PW that I found cheap (most aren't) and on which I did a project.

One of my favorite cars.

Hello guys and gals 

I guess not very many train folks have this type of car. I was hoping for some pictures

of the car so i would know what to expect when it comes. I have learned the hard way

that what ever lionel puts on the box label is sometimes misleading. Most of the pictures

on ebay was taken from the catalogs and some production cars taken with poor camera

resulting poor fuzzy pictures and too dark etc and what not !

Tiffany

Here is a version of the postwar 6418. The girders are plastic.

Regards,

Randall

These are nice cars, and provide some nice variety to a collection of rolling stock. The body is all diecast, in fact, everything on the car is metal. Here are a few shots of the one I have. This came from an MPC-era set, I think the Mid-Atlantic Limited set.

The car was unlettered, and I used decals to letter it for the UP. The top ends of these cars are simulated wood planks, and I painted those with textured lighter brown paint to make them appear a bit more realistic, and dress it up a little. 

The car came with a small plastic transformer load, and I replaced that with a diecast Caterpillar diesel engine (made by Norscot). This was originally a generator, and I doctored it up, mostly cutting with a Dremel and gluing some parts, to get a representation of just the diesel engine, which fit nicely into the depressed portion of the flatcar. I imagine it's a large engine for marine use in a large tug, a ferry or something on that order. A photo of the original engine/generator model is also shown below.

Nice job on the engine kitbash.

To my mind, depressed center flatcars always look better when the load fits within the confines of the depressed center.

Hello breezinup....

that is a GOOD looking load !! It looks like a 10,000 horsepower diesel for a large tug boat.

you did a good job on this one 

Tiffany

Thanks for the compliments, Roy and Tiffany. The planning and surgery on the engine turned out to be more involved and took a lot more time than I thought it would when I started (not to mention that it's a pretty expensive item), so it's a good thing it came out OK. 

one of these has been on my wish list for a while. need to get around to getting one.

The first two produced in the Modern era were:

#9233 carried a small transformer, and was done in 1980. It was part of the Royal Limited set, and was not offered for separate sale. Many dealers did set breakups, that is how I got mine.

#6509 carried a set of bridge girders, and was done in 1981. It was available for separate sale. I don't know whether it was also included in any sets. Trainworld / Trainland eventually put them on closeout, so I purchased several.

The 9233 did not come in the #1070 Royal Limited Set, It came in set #1071 The Mid Atlantic Limited.

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The 9233 did not come in the #1070 Royal Limited Set, It came in set #1071 The Mid Atlantic Limited.

Thank you for catching my error.

No problem, when its comes to Postwar and MPC, I know my stuff :-)

The first one came with passenger trucks. Lionel did not have a die cast freight truck at the time.

Hello guys and gals....

When did lionel first install die cast freight trucks on this type of car after the end of the 

postwar period ?  Since this car is made in china so how does it compared to the ones

made in USA?

Tiffany

Actually Lionel did have die cast freight trucks during that time; the postwar die-cast bar end trucks which was amongst all the tooling General Mills purchased from the Lionel Corporation in 1969 and was used on the original 6418 & 6518.  Modern-era Lionel for whatever reason at the time, just used the Timken passenger trucks that were also used on the bay window cabooses and the re-issued cop & hobo gondola; perhaps it was because they hadn't modified the bar-end trucks yet to accept the delrin bearings to adapt them for the needlepoint bearings on MPC's fast angle wheelsets?

When they produced the car, they did not have one to use but they did have the passenger truck so that's what went on the car.