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     I have 4 Atlas double track truss bridges that I bought for my layout. I looked into different Co. build me A 5 1/2 ft. long curved bridge and believe me it was no little $300.00 they wanted over A $1,000.00 for it. I took the do it yourself option (being on limited income) and it is still not cheap. I am using fine chip chip board as the main base that the tracks get mounted to witch I doubled up. The edges I covered with box beam from WS and the Plastrut (W) roof trusses I am gluing to flat plastic to make the legs that support the trestle. The flat plastic I am putting the rivets into it before I glue it to the roof trusses with the Sensi press. then I need smaller (W) roof trusses to connect the legs together. Then you have to figure in the price of the glue for the wood, the glue for the plastic and the paint all this starts adding up. When I am done with the trestle I figure I will have 5-6 hundred dollars into the project. I am building this myself to help save money but also when I am double heading my new $3,000.00 UP BB and my old $1,800.00 UP BB and the C&O Allegheny is coming the other way on the other track I need to know this trestle is not going to give way. I don't understand some people It is what it is If you want to run A $5000.00 engine across A cheap plastic $20.00- $50.00 trestle go ahead but don't complain when the trestle gives way and your train ends up in your valley or worse smashed up on the floor. I am sorry for ranting for so long I will get down off my fruit crate and quit complaining now. Take care Choo Choo Kenny

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Don't understand what this has to do with a Lionel bridge or the price of beans in China. Suggest a more positive title inferring the pride you obviously and justifiably have in building it yourself, instead of falling back into a bash Lionel price syndrone which is not recognizable anywhere in your post except in the title.

Come on Kenny don't let the cabin fever keep you down.

     I am sorry I was not bashing Lionel's price of the new trestle at all. If you wanted to make that trestle and bought the individual components from Plastrut you would have quite A lot  of money into all the individual pieces and I don't know if it would be cheaper to build it yourself or buy it pre made from Lionel. That is what I was getting at with the price comparison of build it your self or buy it pre made. I needed A custom curved trestle and if I needed A straight one like Lionel or Atlas O I don't think I would build one from scratch. The price works out about the same for the straight trestles. Thank you and take care Choo Choo Kenny

     If you are asking me Choo Choo Kenny to show you guys pictures I can not. As I have been building the layout and other things (trestles) I was taking pictures. I had A request for some pictures of my Westinghouse train I took the camera down to the basement. I was getting out the Westinghouse stuff and it was late so I got tired. I left the camera down in the basement overnight and went to bed. When I got up the next day and went down to the basement the camera was gone. I live with my parents because I am temp. disabled. My mother is disabled and she has aids that help her 1 comes from 7AM to 1 PM and the other 1 comes from 4 PM to 12AM. They both said they did not take the camera and all I know is I cant find it where I left it the night before. Until  I get money to buy A new one I cant take any pictures and all the ones on the camera are gone.

The Lionel bridge is what it is.  For the right person it is, if not a bargain, fairly priced.  In the catalog photos, all I have to go on now, it looks detailed and quite realistic, and the modular pedestals that come with it are very well-thought out and a clever way to tailor its application.  

 

The problem I have with buying bridges like these is that seldom are they going to fit exactly: a bridge might be 30" put Ineed a 29" bridge.  Or 32 inches, etc.  

 

Still, I like the look, and as they say, the ability for them to just left out so you can get an access passage.  I particularly like that feature: if they can be made to fit (I will measure later today) I might order  between one and five.

Hi Kenny,

 

Thank you for your story.

 

 

Sorry your camera went AWOL.  Your family situation is common in my work.  Unfortunately your story is not that uncommon to me.  I am sorry you have been exposed to this added difficulty in your life's journey,   Thankfully there are digital cameras available at low prices.

 

Maybe someone here could shoot you an extra camera????

 

Your bridge is your bridge no matter how you have built it.  The way you have expressed your story is the way you expressed your story.  It's all good.

 

IMO it is the essence of the message that matters.

 

If we were all scored on grammar and syntax and execution of our models I would have been kicked off OGR long ago.

 

Keep on posting! TT

 

 

This reminds me of the old saying "you can't please everyone all of the time".  Lionel, like other O gauge manufacturer's try to place on the market what the hobbyist wants and attempt to make the item useful for most people.  Lionel's newest bridge release, in my opinion, gives us another choice of a bridge to use on our layouts, nothing more, nothing less.  The price listed in the catalog represents full retail price and you can find them with substantial discounts with forum sponsors down the road.  Let's be thankful that we are getting new items to have and enjoy.  This is supposed to be a fun hobby, try to have fun and not complain so much.

 

Steve, Lady and Tex

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The complaints about pricing strike me as folks looking for a reason to be unhappy.  The firms that make these products want them to sell, and the market will adjust the price to what people are willing to pay.  As I mentioned in another thread, if you need a lift-out section and lack the ability to build one on your own, it saves a great deal of time and aggravation.  Moreover, the piers are configurable -- another feature that might save people a great deal of time and aggravation, and that comes at some price.

 

Is the price too high?  What will the discount be?  I don't know, but ultimately the market has a way of sorting these things out.  Kind of like six or seven years ago when the price of fuel shot up.  Everyone complained, and no one liked it.  When discussing that issue with friends and colleagues, my refrain would be that the best solution to high prices are high prices because it will encourage more production, more competition, and thereby drive prices down while at the same time consumers will use less.  Now here we are in 2015, oil prices are on the way down, and with it gasoline prices, and the US is now a major producer of oil.  Who would of thought any of this possible?  As I said, things have a way of working themselves out.  Applied to the O gauge market, if the O gauge train market were more profitable (and the number of times that Lionel has changed hands over my lifetime is testament that it isn't that profitable), maybe we would have more choices and better options. That's why it doesn't offend me that Lionel, WBB, MTH or anyone else actually wants to try to make a profit and needs to raise prices given that Chinese production costs have gone up and the dollar has gained value. 

 

Long way of saying stop whining about prices, whether it be Lionel, WBB or anyone else.  If you don't like the cost, don't buy the item -- that's totally fair.  But it does strike me as counterproductive to keep on about this.  The only thing missing is an Oprah couch and a good cry.  Give it a rest fellas.

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