Lionel's new Lackawanna S-3 locomotive - 2017 catalog vol. 1

The DL&W had 4-8-4's, but the only thing they really shared with the Milwaukee S3 is the wheel arrangement.  Lionel's going for "close enuff."

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Rusty

This engine represents the MR 4-8-4 that wore a disguise as a Lackawanna engine at Steamtown a few years ago. It is not fantasy just a very short time disguise on a real Milwaukee  4-8-4.

Thanks for the information, links and pictures.

As I get older my desire to operate trains that ran in my favorite part of my home state becomes stronger. Lionel's S-3 is an engine that has grown on me since I first saw it in 2010 or so.

"It is not fantasy just a very short time disguise on a real Milwaukee  4-8-4."

But the Steamtown treatment was a 1:1 fantasy - so, is a model of a fantasy a real model or a continuation of the fantasy?

Ah, philosophy. Like, how many Niagaras would fit on the head of a very large pin?

I rode the Steamtown "snowplow special that one year the locomotive was there. I have to find my pics of it. It was really cool esp that the CNJ and Lackawanna cars were steam heated too!

FWIW: I've only seen videos of Lionel's previous release of the S-3 with cylinder smoke effect and it looks neat - I am guessing it is activated by Cab I or II remote button. If Lionel could add whistle steam effect as well then this model would be ideal.

If it says Lackawanna on it  I buy it  Who cares if it was a standin.  

D500 posted:

"It is not fantasy just a very short time disguise on a real Milwaukee  4-8-4."

But the Steamtown treatment was a 1:1 fantasy - so, is a model of a fantasy a real model or a continuation of the fantasy?

Ah, philosophy. Like, how many Niagaras would fit on the head of a very large pin?

It's nothing new...  Back around 1973 the Delaware & Hudson reworked Reading 2102 (along with an ex-CPR 4-6-2 who's number escapes me) into "D&H 302"  and "D&H 653"to celebrate the road's sesquicentennial:

And C&O 2716 became "Southern 2716" in 1981 for their steam program:

So, Lionel's model of "Lackawanna 1661" has much more legitimacy than the S3 with the Hiawatha paint job or Daylight AC9's and AC12's.

Rusty

D500 posted:

"It is not fantasy just a very short time disguise on a real Milwaukee  4-8-4."

But the Steamtown treatment was a 1:1 fantasy - so, is a model of a fantasy a real model or a continuation of the fantasy?

Ah, philosophy. Like, how many Niagaras would fit on the head of a very large pin?

It was 1:1, that means it actually happened. It is not an accurate DL&W locomotive, but is an accurate livery, however, one that only existed briefly.

I will get that photo op of the S3 with my Weaver Pocono's when it comes

For me, it's just nice that you can buy an off-the-shelf Lackawanna steamer with those features.  Now if I could only afford it.

Too bad they did not model the 1939 World's Fair example.

Sadly there isn't enough Lackawanna steam as I and many others would like there to be. The same goes for matching steam era cabeese. I can't find the Weaver Pocono anywhere. Luckily the legacy mogul's were made with 565 being one of them so there is still some hope for DL&W steam!

Edit- There isn't enough of not only DL&W steam but also the Lehigh Valley. It seems those two roads have the least amount of scale steam. LV ranks with scale camelbacks, and the John Wilkes and Black Diamond pacifics. Lackawanna  has... the Pocono, camelback, Mogul, and now the S3 which I would include in the list. I'd like to see some more of the grunt freight engines that both roads would of used.  

Milwaukee Road no. 261 became Lackawanna 1661 for a day in 1995. July 22, for a run to Binghamton, NY on a special called "The Triple Cities." The locomotive was lettered for Lackawanna, but also featured DL&W headlight, marker lamps, bell, air horn and whistle provided by Henry W. Peterson.  Now that this is mentioned, I have an interest in getting the engine myself.  I hadn't given it much thought when the catalog came to my house.