Lionel Train Repair CD Question

The Greenberg guides will help here.

In the case of the 8404, if you look in the Greenberg guide, 8404 is the catalog number(the guide is arranged by catalog number) and the cab number is 6200.

If the catalog number & cab number are not the same, the listing will show, is in this case, (8404) in parenthesis as this is not the number on the cab, followed by the description, containing the cab number "6200" in quotes.

If you look up 6200, the guide says (See 8404).

The 8404 is actually closest to the 682 mechanically & feature-wise, with a twelve wheel 2671W type tender.

Did Greenberg assign the 8000 series numbers? I don't see the numbers listed in the Lionel postwar catalogs. The only number listed for the engines in the postwar catalog that I saw was the cab number.

Earl

Lionel started the 8000 series numbers in 1970. Even that is somewhat of a simplification. The catalog number of the 1970-1972 IC GP9 is technically 6-8030.

Any confusion is probably the fault of the producer of the CDs.

Earl, it sounds like you have the CDs that have the modern era exploded diagrams and not Lionel's postwar service manual. The ads for it make it sound great, but it is very incomplete. The 8000 numbers are from the Fundimensions era. The modern era exploded diagrams are also available for free on Lionel's website. The postwar service manual is much more complete and includes more than an exploded diagram. Most items also have text explaining problems and their solution. Items are also listed by their postwar catalog number, i.e.671. A digital version of Lionel's postwar service manual is available from www.hslinc.com or at 800-779-2802 and is a much better and more complete manual. This manual includes locos, rolling stock, tranformers and accessories and other bonus material.

Hope that helps,
Best,
Bill Schmeelk

Bill,

I do have the CD's that you described. They are a mish-mash of unorganized information. They were a huge disappointment. The CDs contain pdf images of mostly exploded parts diagrams. Since the pdfs are all images, they are unsearchable. Additionally, not being able to find engines by their cab number makes the CDs even more useless.

I do have the Greenberg Lionel repair manuals, both prewar and postwar. They are a constant reliable companion whenever I do repairs. You stated: "A digital version of Lionel's postwar service manual is available from www.hslinc.com or at 800-779-2802 and is a much better and more complete manual." Is that digital version searchable, or is it just images of a repair manual?

Thanks...
Earl

Hi Earl,

Thank you for your interest in the Lionel Postwar Service Manual Digital Archive 1945 - 1969. This product has become one of the most popular digital offerings we have developed. Yes ... the product contains scans of the Lionel postwar service manual. They are organized by section (i.e. LOCs, ACC, Rolling Stock, Operating Rolling Stock, etc.) if you know exactly what you are trying to find. However, there is also a master index that contains everything in the archive. You can search for "671" or another part of the item description (i.e. "barrel loader"). You can resize and print any page or pages of the manual.

I know you have purchased other HSL / Lionel digital archive products in the past. These are developed with the same methodology that emphasizes ease of use and functionality. I do not think you will be disappointed in this product.

Please contact me directly if you would like any additional information.

Thanks Earl.

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do have the CD's that you described. They are a mish-mash of unorganized information. They were a huge disappointment. The CDs contain pdf images of mostly exploded parts diagrams. Since the pdfs are all images, they are unsearchable. Additionally, not being able to find engines by their cab number makes the CDs even more useless.

I bought the same ones a couple years ago. It came from a seller in Hong Kong. Nothing but garbage.
Rob