Which Lionel truck styles have been made with the pickup shoes for this operating track section?
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A lot of the older post war and most pre war trucks would have the slide shoes if equipped. The numbers in pre war had four digits in them.
There are still some freight cars made with slide shoes but not many at all. Some MTH & Lionel classics might have the slide shoe.
Lee Fritz
There are several operating milk cars and merchandise car. Here's one where you can look up and purchase what parts you need.
6-27941 #3854 Pennsylvania Operating Merchandise Car
You can find others by typing "operating cars" in the search box under customer service / replacement parts.
Thanks for the info but I guess I am curious as in since the 1970's have only Lionel cars with Bar End style PW trucks had the sliders? Or have other modern tooled trucks been made with the sliders?
Below is the truck from the 6-27941 merchandise car which is current Lionel production. Other current Lionel and Railking operating cars (ex. signalman) use this style of truck as did K-Line.
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As far as I can tell the truck you show is the only Lionel style that has ever had the pickup sliders. The new sprung trucks and diecast AAR, plus the other truck used on operating cars (looks like a chunky AAR) only have roller adaptions.
Those sliding shoes are a real problem going over modern switches. They like to hang up.
Thanks for the pics. I forgot about the passenger truck. Never knew about the modern universal truck on the Moe and Joe.
Prewar versions were all stamped tin with box couplers and separate journal boxes.
Bruce
Thanks for the pics. Never knew about the modern universal truck on the Moe and Joe.
You would think they would have used that truck on other operating cars as well during that period, but I don’t have any other cars with sliding shoes from that period of time to check.
Bill
The Moe and Joe trucks are metal...but I think thats the only time they have used the sliders. For comparison the new Lobster Aquarium car uses the same truck with rollers.
The Moe and Joe trucks are metal...but I think thats the only time they have used the sliders. For comparison the new Lobster Aquarium car uses the same truck with rollers.
Mike:
I just rechecked them to be sure and as I posted originally the trucks on my Moe & Joe car are definitely PLASTIC, not metal. There is a metal plate running between the axles to which the sliding shoes are attached. That plate is held on to the axles with bendable tabs in each corner just like on a post-war metal truck. But the entire assembly except for that plate, the wheels, axles and the screw that attaches the truck to the body, are plastic. The coupler arm is plastic and is attached to the plastic cross brace, not to that metal plate like on a post-war truck.
What other cars did they make with sliding shoes back in that period (2004) that might also have them? It doesn't seem cost-effective to design a new truck to be used on just one car.
Bill
That is interesting, and possibly the only use of that truck. I have always known that truck to be diecast. But I have only seen it used on Cabooses, operating gondolas, any car that required diecast trucks...and rollers. Not sure why they don't use the sprung trucks with rollers on these cars...but IMO that was never a robust setup.
The other cars with sliders all used the PW bar end trucks...the reissue coal dump and barrel gondola...the rachet log dump and twin bin dump from the 2008 PWC Berkshire Set (my favorite...way better than the recent CC version).
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During the postwar period, Lionel made a metal plate with a sliding shoe that went on their plastic trucks. The plate has a semicircle punched out of one end to clear the uncoupling armature. It was used on the late milk and horse cars.