Lionel Vision Line Announcement

Maybe, maybe not will see, it would be cool but I thought Lionel would do a Allegheny before they do electrics/ diesels.

Guessing it will be a Vision Line Broadway Limited

Perhaps the first Vision Line TRAIN?  GG1 and passenger cars?  We'll know in less than 10 minutes.   Keep us posted!!!

 

David

Is this announcement done live?

A whole train would be great. Maybe some newly tooled P70's to go along with it?

GG1

Sparking pantographs

Rats.  Don't need another electric.  Oh well, maybe next year.

 

Stereo horn and new dialogue

Five paint schemes modern 3 paint schemes Old Rivets style

And the MSRP is???

 

$1299 is my guess.

 

Sounds like this thing is going to be awesome!

Is Lionel handing out a brochure at the announcement?  

 

 

No price announced
Brochure yes very nice
Pantographs cannot be powered off catenary
Additional details to be added
Pantograph bar is unprototypically wide to accommodate flashing LED's

Sadly, I am much more interested in the MTH Cancer Awareness loco and caboose

 

Another GG-1? Really?   But I have 3 JLC GG-1's already!

 

Well dodged that bullet.

Man, I just saved myself a pile of dough!  Love Lionel.  Love VL and all the technology it brings.  The GG1 is the ugliest thing to come from Raymond Loewy designers IMHO. 

Talk about a Niche product. Requires O-72 AND a catenary system to look realistic. BUT you can't power it via the catenary. Haha.

Is there a order date and ship date yet?

 

Brad

Love Lionel.  GG-1s are great.  I guess the question is do the added features justify paying a huge premium over what's been offered before.  I'm sure sparking pantographs are cool to look at (and they would probably spark anyway if powered from overhead) but I'm just not feelin it for this.  Happy for anyone who wants one and can afford one but I am really wondering about this one.  Is this really gonna sell?  BigRail

What an enormous let down!  Coupled with the MTH catalog, this saves me a lot of money.

 

Art

I'll just get the JLC GG1.

Any pics yet?  Of Brochure at least?

 

Looks like my wallet will be safe with this introduction.  I'm sure it will be awesome, just not my cup of tea.

 

I am interested to see the sparking pantographs though....sounds pretty cool. 

 

I scored a tuscan GG1 off  feebay last year for like $400 and that is all I need for GG1's on my mostly western roads train layout

Thanks for the chuckle Art, buried one of my best friends mother yesterday.

A full scale GG1's preferred 0-72 curves eliminates me as a prospective buyer.  However, I'm betting that Lionel will make an outstanding model and looking forward to seeing AND hearing this model in action. 

 

The V/L GG1 w/ added features can have the same "initial" response that the V/L Big Boy received.  Although there were many people who already had a scale big boy and somewhat downplayed another BB w/ legacy, I think many were later swayed to order/buy the new version based on Lionel's added features and great product demos.

 

A wired catenary looks great on a layout and an operational CAT is a "neat" feature, but IMO, to have a catenary or not is not that important because I think it is safe to say that the majority of operators with or without GG1's or electrics likely do not have CATS on their layouts, let alone fully operating CAT.  I think Lionel has the tech and resources to make the LED strobe to closely replicate the arcing pantograph. Combine those visual effects with stereo sound and this GG1 can be an extremely attractive model to those that can run and afford the likely TBD price.

 

I'm also very interested to see their old rivets version and if this rendition will be new tooling or some other method (decal/pad print) to bring out the rivet look.

 

Life's the same, I'm moving in stereo

I checked the Lionel website, and the brochure is not there, at least from my search. Thought it would go live right after the announcement. 

If you search "vision line GG1" on Google, this come up first...

http://www.lionel.com/gg1.php

It appears to be a link to a brochure but it is not working yet.

My K-Line GG1 fits my needs, it'll pull a house down and fit O36.  I'll love to watch videos of the VL one, and to hear it, but I'm not going to be buying one now.

Here's a working link.

 

http://visionline.lionel.com/gg1.php

 

Many offerings of paint schemes.

it appears there will be an amtrak one

GG1 Features

well..... their new catalog saves me a ton of money, all the way around. I speak with my wallet and it will be staying closed when it comes to new Lionel products. I really hope this is not a sign to come!

Any word on price????  

 

My prediction: $1200-$1300  MSRP. 

 

 

Looks like MTH and Lionel are really getting out of touch.

Well there is still 3RD RAIL.

I bet it will sell well, GG1's are popular no doubt about it,Electrics are just boring to me personally.

 

 

Gotta give it to Lionel for delivering features never implemented on the stuff we buy though.

 

 

It's Sounding like they are shooting for a lot of detail since they are working with the museum, I'm sure it will be very nice, I just personally don't want one.

 

 

BigJOhn,

 

 Thanks for posting that.  Very cool stuff.  I like that the pantographs are sprung.

 

Also, the coupler firing sounds coming from whichever end the couple being fired is on is another nice touch.

 

As I said above, I am definitely in for one.   I just need to decide which version I want.

Here is a link to a video of the announcement. Yes, you can see the "Catenary arc" lighting effect.

 

https://www.periscope.tv/Lionel_Trains/1lPKqNwDEedGb

Great idea! Need to drop some hints with the Lionel guys at York this week.