Lionmaster Class A 1212 6-82203- Does it really have Odyssey? If so where is the switch?

 You can do a search on the Forum as to why it runs like this. Both the Class A and the 0-8-0's don't have what I would call Legacy control. They use a board that uses Back EMF to provide the cruise. Your engine has fast starts. Imagine how bad this is in a switcher. When I ordered mine as BTO. I thought I was purchasing the ultimate switcher even with the hefty price tag. I ended up with an engine with maybe 5 usable speed steps out of 200. I have to run it with a DCS remote. The spinning wheel is just to hard to do switching moves. At least you got a good deal. I didn't.

Thanks Dave, I will search the forum. Odyssey must have multiple versions? Even using the dcs remote, sounds like not a big operational difference with my conventional set up

hokie71 posted:

, I will search the forum. Odyssey must have multiple versions? 

No. This was and intentional change in speed control by Lionel.

It was mentioned the "full legacy" electronics wouldn't fit. However the 0-8-0s were already offered with full legacy 200 speed steps several years ago.

Some suspect it was possibly some type of cost cutting measure by Lionel.

Either way most agree Lionel dropped the ball on these

The TMCC versions of these Lionmaster class A's are actually much better performers.

Thanks Ricko, I found some of the old threads too. I would agree on the ball being dropped: great sound, great appearance, whistle smoke, and....... poor speed control. Go figure!

I have the Santa Fe one.  Looks and sounds great, but runs poorly.  I've had it come off the track on O72 curves at speed step 101.  None of my other Legacy engines do that.  If there was a way to slow it down I'd be happy.