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I'm in the process if designing a layout (construction was supposed to be almost done by now but the planning for the track design is taking much longer than I thought it would) and badly want a Pratt truss bridge like one of the ones on the ET&WNC:

I was told that the O scale Bachmann truss bridge kit was good but wasn't terribly happy with what I got.

Has anyone cut down a Atlas truss bridge for this kind of thing? I just can't find a good representation of a NG Pratt or Howe truss bridge in O scale that doesn't look like a bad toy...

This is what I'm looking for:

  • A truss bridge model that can be used for On3 or On30 and look correct for that scale.
  • Model needs to be of a metal bridge, not a wood one.
  • Bridge needs to be a decent scale model of one. Nothing toy-like or tinplate.
  • Nothing that I need to take a second mortgage out to buy.
  • Check the photo, this is the type of bridge I'm looking to model, but could be one of the various types of truss bridges of that general type of span.
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P51,

 

The Atlas O Scale truss bridge is heavy-duty mainline, over kill for On30.  

 

You might consider the beautiful CV HO components and build your own.  I did spot a photo on the web of an On30 Shay going through an HO truss bridge, so, depending on your locos, either the CV or Walthers bridges could also be possibilities.

 

You might also reconsider the need for steel - most US narrow gauge lines were built for light duty and On30 is usually modeled as even lighter.

 

ChipR 

Well, I'm looking to model a specific railroad, one which didn't have timber bridges later than the WW1 era. The one in the photo is one of the few from that RR that still remains, obviously used for a road now.

I've looked at some std gauge HO bridges, but they just don't look right. I was hoping someone made a good truss bridge in S scale but I haven't seen anything.

Here is a suggestion, try a Plasticville bridge!  Yes, a Plasticville!  They are inexpensive and readily available.  It is small and fits the scale of narrow gauge.  I have one on my line, I just built up the bottom girders from Plastistruct beams.  Here is a shot on my layout.

 

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The Central Valley bridge pieces look as if they are 24" long and can be cut to needed length.  They also come in heavy and normal sizes and can be cut to needed length.  Whilst the rivets will be too small and too close together, after weathering and at normal layout viewing distances, they should look acceptable. 

 

ChipR

Originally Posted by DennisB:

He tried the Bachmann Plasticville Trestle bridge and wasn't happy with it.

Yeah, it's just sides and top with no deck at all. I know MircoMark made a laser cut bridge deck for it for a very brief time but they don't make them anymore. If I could find a decent looking bridge deck for the thing, I could probably make it work with a lot of detailing.

Frankly, I'm downright baffled why nobody makes a decent O scale truss bridge in plastic.

Originally Posted by rex desilets:

Looks to me like you will need to scratch build what you want.

 

I guess you're right. I need to see one of these Lionel bridges in real life.

Building one myself is not really an option, I'd never be able to get all the rivets and details from scratch to match the prototype to any acceptable level.

I'm actually willing to spend money for the right bridge, does any make a metal bridge or one in brass?

I simply refuse to accept that among decades of O scale modelers, both 3-rail and fine scale, that nobody has ever made an accurate truss bridge!

Unfortunately there are not models of each possible variation of truss bridges in all scales.  

 

Lots of good suggestions mentioned above.

 

Other options => pay someone to build it for you (kitbash or scratchbuild in styrene or photo-resist brass)....or contact the Tweetsie historical society to learn if other modelers have tackled your project.  

Building one myself is not really an option, I'd never be able to get all the rivets and details from scratch to match the prototype to any acceptable level.
I'm actually willing to spend money for the right bridge, does any make a metal bridge or one in brass?
I simply refuse to accept that among decades of O scale modelers, both 3-rail and fine scale, that nobody has ever made an accurate truss bridge!

I feel your pain!
William Clouser (of trolley and other modeling fame, unfortunately no longer with us) showed a truss bridge made from Strathmore board:

If you have adequate plans for your bridge this would be a low-cost way to get your feet wet. Unless, of course, you're physically unable to perform such work (happens to us all as the years pile up).
Build the bridge from wood shapes with paper gussets and don't worry about rivets; 95% of your guests will not notice. Tedious work-about like building a stick and paper model airplane, best done in front of the TV.
I once built a facsimile of the Keddie Wye bridge this way (in HO) and no one ever complained about lack of rivets. If you reproduce the lacy look of your example your bridge will be a triumph even without rivets.
Then you can get your railroad running. You can replace your first effort later.
I have no doubt that there is someone out there who would fabricate your bridge for you but the cost might cause a nosebleed. Check the Yahoo groups; I know there are several On30 groups and there might be a Tweetsie group as well. Join and ask your question. Also, if you have copies of the Tweetsie magazine, you could try to contact one of the editors or contributors.
Tweetsie is one of my favorite railroads. One of these days I'll tackle the BRB&L coaches to go behind my Bachmann 4-6-0.....

BridgesAndBuildingsForMR1

This book contains a six page article on scratchbuilding a Pratt truss bridge using stripwood.  Evergreen Scale Models and Plastruct styrene strips and angles would work just as well.  Minor modifications during construction would allow a credible model matching the Tweestie bridge.  Check eBay and Railpub for a copy...for a small fee, the Kalmbach Memorial Library will copy pages 26-31.

 

I like the option mentioned earlier using the Central Valley girders...the large girders measure 1 foot square in O scale with excellent detail. 

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I will echo the leaving off the rivet detail, enough weathering and they won't be missed.  I have one of these kits that will be used in S scale and I plan on making the girder/deck supports from strip styrene.  Rivet detail can be painted on the viewer side with a fine pointed brush for that matter.  Will the bridge be viewable within a few inches or back a few feet?

 

Greg

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Originally Posted by Greg Elems:

Will the bridge be viewable within a few inches or back a few feet?

It'd be really close up. That's why I now seriously doubt I'll have a bridge at all, as I just don't see any O scale bridges that I'd wanna use.

The ET&WNC had a covered bridge, though, down by Hampton, TN. Maybe I could just go with a model of that, as it'd be easy for me to build a decent representation of that...

 

Originally Posted by rex desilets:

Please take a look at these:

 

http://www.shop.cvmw.com/Heavy...ox-Girders-19005.htm

 

and tell us why you couldn't make a near-perfect representation of the ETWNC truss bridge

 

I supposed I could... if I were modeling in HO scale. That's been my problem from the start, there are countless HO scale bridges of this type but apparently not one comparable bridge in O scale that I can find.

Originally Posted by p51:
Originally Posted by rex desilets:

Please take a look at these:

 

http://www.shop.cvmw.com/Heavy...ox-Girders-19005.htm

 

and tell us why you couldn't make a near-perfect representation of the ETWNC truss bridge

 

I supposed I could... if I were modeling in HO scale. That's been my problem from the start, there are countless HO scale bridges of this type but apparently not one comparable bridge in O scale that I can find.

Ah, now here's the neat part about building your own...if you can find plans or drawings but they aren't in your scale, you can resize them or redraw them on graph/grid paper. I did this many years ago when I was messing with G scale and could only find HO scale plans for the things I wanted - use scale rulers to convert or resize a drawing in a paint or some kind of program to make them the scale you need.

If your a rivet counter then this will get you what you want, or if your a TLAR{that looks about right} you'll be plenty close enough.

Give it a try...you'd be amazed at what you can do....

The guy who makes a good-looking deck for the Plasticville truss bridge will find that he can sell enough of them to pay for his 3-D printer shortly.
 
--Lee DeG
 
 Originally Posted by p51:
Originally Posted by DennisB:

He tried the Bachmann Plasticville Trestle bridge and wasn't happy with it.

Yeah, it's just sides and top with no deck at all. I know MircoMark made a laser cut bridge deck for it for a very brief time but they don't make them anymore. If I could find a decent looking bridge deck for the thing, I could probably make it work with a lot of detailing.

Frankly, I'm downright baffled why nobody makes a decent O scale truss bridge in plastic.

 

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