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With all the talk of Thomas the Tank, Polar Express, and even Chuggington products being made in the hobby, it got me to think of one train from childhood almost forgotten.

The trolley from Mister Roger's Neighborhood.

I think producing it would be a great idea, and not exactly very expensive. I've seen the trolley done in kids toys like push toys and wooden trains, but not in O gauge. Probably do well as a starter set or a stand alone item. Maybe even use a mechanical bell mechanism. Agree or disagree?
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I think people are confusing two trolleys. At the start of the show, there was a HO representation of the "neighborhood". For some of the seasons, there was a trolley that did cross through the center of the neighborhood. This is the one that was motivated by a thread.
     The main trolley was somewhere in the G to 1 gauge size. I had been on the set and it was indeed a 2 rail setup in the living room.
     You would think it would be a no brainer to reproduce in plastic or tinplate with an underfloor motor. Heck, with ps3, mth would be able to even get it to do trolley's 'conversation' mode where it rocks back and forth and dings.

It's funny that this topic came up. I was just exploring this the other day. I would like to see it happen as well, but it really becomes an issue of the cost to license the trolley from the Fred Rogers Group and then the cost of the set. Could I see this in the G scale battery powered line, maybe.

 

Lets look at the O gauge line though. Let's say you put Lionchief in the trolley. I'm struggling to believe that a parent is going to pay $130-140 for a set that really has no expansion possibilities other than accessories. Think about how much Thomas and Friends plastic trains $140 can buy. No operating couplers on the trolley means no add on cars. Plus you have to tool the whole thing up, pay the Fred Rogers Group, leave margins for the dealers, etc. The pie gets pretty slim quickly.

 

Could I see some folks scratch building this? Absolutely, but I think it's going to be a challenge to get a manufacture to take it on. The Fred Rogers Group has seen a resurgence in the property since launching Daniel Tigers Neighborhood a few years ago and there are larger toy manufactures clearly interested in the space. 

 

Just my two cents.

Originally Posted by Notch 6:

...........it really becomes an issue of the cost to license the trolley from the Fred Rogers Group....

Was wondering when or if anyone might think of this detail.....

Basic small open seat trolleys have been available in O scale for quite a long time imported in brass in several seat number variations.  Under the floor powering is "entertaining"...

Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:

Why is it when ever anyone on the forum talks of the possibility if whatever being made someone always has to interject the "licensing rights" issue as if none of us knows? 

 

Jerry

If everyone knows, it would have been brought up sooner. Not everyone understands that many outside products require a licensing agreement. No sense in avoiding the elephant in the room. That license fee dictates much of the conversation, like it or not. 

Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:

Why is it when ever anyone on the forum talks of the possibility if whatever being made someone always has to interject the "licensing rights" issue as if none of us knows? 

 

Jerry

Why is it every time someone see a train on TV or a movie they think it should be made into a model train and be an instant hit?

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:

Why is it when ever anyone on the forum talks of the possibility if whatever being made someone always has to interject the "licensing rights" issue as if none of us knows? 

 

Jerry

Because some do not know of or even think about such concepts and it's part of the reality and equation.  

Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:

Why is it when ever anyone on the forum talks of the possibility if whatever being made someone always has to interject the "licensing rights" issue as if none of us knows? 

 

Jerry

Why is it every time someone see a train on TV or a movie they think it should be made into a model train and be an instant hit?

 

Rusty

What do you mean? Isn't everyone working on a model of the 1970's nuclear powered super train like me?

 

 

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Originally Posted by J Daddy:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:

Why is it when ever anyone on the forum talks of the possibility if whatever being made someone always has to interject the "licensing rights" issue as if none of us knows? 

 

Jerry

Why is it every time someone see a train on TV or a movie they think it should be made into a model train and be an instant hit?

 

Rusty

What do you mean? Isn't everyone working on a model of the 1970's nuclear powered super train like me?

 

 

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Something to do about the "Wide Track" licensing with GM's Pontiac Div. 

Originally Posted by J Daddy:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:

Why is it when ever anyone on the forum talks of the possibility if whatever being made someone always has to interject the "licensing rights" issue as if none of us knows? 

 

Jerry

Why is it every time someone see a train on TV or a movie they think it should be made into a model train and be an instant hit?

 

Rusty

What do you mean? Isn't everyone working on a model of the 1970's nuclear powered super train like me?

 

 

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The real studio model of Supertrain was sold off in an ad in Model Railroader In the 70's 80's. I totally remember the issue. It was a big model and came with track but not enough to do a loop.

 

As far as future trains I would LOVE a O scale 3 rail Tyco TurboTrain. It doesn't even have to do the loop (but it would be nice).

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I got to meet Mr Rogers as a kid once. I loved the show, of course. Would have loved to have met Captain Kangeroo as Bob Keeshan was a Marine at the end of WW2 (though he never went into combat).
There's a long standing urban legend that Fred Rogers had been an Army sniper. Total BS, though, but the story persists.
 
 
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by baltimoretrainworks:

Why is it when ever anyone on the forum talks of the possibility if whatever being made someone always has to interject the "licensing rights" issue as if none of us knows? 

 

Jerry

Why is it every time someone see a train on TV or a movie they think it should be made into a model train and be an instant hit?

 

Rusty

Mister Rogers has a huge fan base among model railroaders who are now at the age they could afford something like that.

But I do get your point, though.

 

Well, I remembered it being three-rail but these photos don't show that at all. Kind of hard to tell what scale the thing was...

Hi Folks,

 

Perhaps a Mr. Rogers' trolley might be a good product for the new Bluetooth control system by Bachmann, in either 3 rail O gauge, or O n 30 on HO track.

 

(By the time we were able to receive UHF channels, I was almost a teenager, so I never got up to speed on Mr Rogers until my adulthood. Capitan Kangaroo was more my speed, with Mr Moose and Bunny Rabbit, Grandfather Clock, and Mr Green Jeans!)

 

Take care, Joe.

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I'm going to say it would be a foregone conclusion the studio had more than just one trolley for the show.  It's a moving prop with mechanical parts, the parts can fail, the trolley can get accidentally dropped to the floor by staff or by derailment and get damaged.  If either of those scenarios happen you don't want that to hold up production, so you have a backup or two to roll out while the other gets repaired so filming can continue.  Just like "hero cars" like the BTTF DeLorean time machine; they didn't just have one single DeLorean to film with, they used a few of them for similar reasons.

Originally Posted by p51:

I thought the Smithsonian had the real one today. As a kid, I clearly recall seeing three rails on the show on the rare times they'd show any downward angle.

In the opening sequence it looks like three rails, but the center "rail" is actually the slot for the string that pulled the trolley through the 'neighborhood'. The trolley in the show itself was more or less 'G', powered, RC controlled, and definately two rail.

 

There was an article about the trolleys in either Model Railroader or Railroad Model Craftsman some time back. It explained why the HO trolley in the opening was moved with a string instead of being powered. RC was used on the big trolley so the operator could move around with the control and keep everything in sight, including the director.

Originally Posted by Len2:
Originally Posted by p51:

I thought the Smithsonian had the real one today. As a kid, I clearly recall seeing three rails on the show on the rare times they'd show any downward angle.

In the opening sequence it looks like three rails, but the center "rail" is actually the slot for the string that pulled the trolley through the 'neighborhood'. The trolley in the show itself was more or less 'G', powered, RC controlled, and definately two rail.

 

 

Thanks, because even though it's been a really long time, I knew I remembered something between the rails and had always assumed it was 3-rail as I had a three-rail set at the same age and figured then it had been built on some Lionel chassis...

I also recall a 'grinding' sound from the studio mikes whenever Mr Rogers "talked" with the trolley (it'd move back and forth in response to him sometimes) and I always wondered what that was. Now, I bet it was the string you described being pulled through whatever hole it went through...

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I actually own the wood replica made by Holgate. The longer I have it, the less I like it. Just being honest. It was clearly intended to be nothing more than a child's toy. It was an impulse buy. I spotted it at a store and had to have it. That said, I think I have answers to some questions.

 

The original trolley was built by a friend of his as a good luck present. Mr Rogers decided to incorporate it into the show as a metaphor. It is just balsa wood, aside from the mechanicals. The whistle in the front does nothing. I believe the mini models of the neighborhood of make believe were also made by a friend of his. Not sure if it's the same one.... 

If you have Netflix as of this posting, they have episodes. The first of which, when he brings the trolley out, he picks it up to show the wheels and say the trolley is just a toy. 

At last I saw or heard, the actual trolley was on display when they recreated the set for a special event. Hasn't been seen since. The history center only had the Holgate replica. 

I just yesterday ordered a Bachmann G scale trolley. I need a project and I'm going to modify it into our friend the neighborhood trolley, then eventually build the bench he sat on. Mine will even have the dummy whistle. 

Here's an amazing replica someone made as well.

http://neighborhoodarchive.com...7_trolley/index.html

 

 

 

 

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