MTH L.I.R.R. F-7 ABA PS 3.0

This is a remake of an older version  They probably used the old pics with the M  Very seriously doubt if the new one will have it

I checked a set at my LHS.  No MTA logos on this run.

Stuart

Because MTH lost the rights to use MTA logos several years ago.  Officially it was because the MTA was ****ed off that MTA did several "graffiti" subway sets (while the MTA was winning the war on graffiti) even though they asked MTH not to do so.

Stuart.

After comparing this with the Pennsylvania set F7, it seems IMHO that the Penn set has more detail. I saw the pics on MTH facebook site. Here is a pic here. 

Here are the pics I was able to fine for the LIRR. Maybe they are different versions.

Small LIRR M logos are always available on ebay which will work on most O items

except the MP-15's.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LIRR-CUSTOM-DECAL-SHEETS-2-ALL-ERAS-/350584734660?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item51a07a83c4

I purchased the NYC version.  I don't have any pictures of it to show you for comparison of detail but I think my set is fine looking.

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Dennis

I am puzzled by the concern over the lack of the MTA logo on the LIRR F-7. I do not recall that the Long Island Rail Road ran F-7 diesels. The Long Island did run the FL109.

There were several EMD cab units on the roster. The only true locomotives among the group were the FL9s the MTA reassigned the LIRR following their rebuilding. The other Fs were HEP equipped cab control units of former B&O and Milwaukee Road origins. They were devoid of prime movers and did not supply tractive effort.

Bob     

The LIRR road numbers for the EMD cab units were 619& 620 both F-9s 0riginally Milwaukee rd and 621 & 622 both F-7s originally Baltimore and Ohio. These were acquired and converted into power cars using a "diesel powered  sled" to make electricity for coaches in the train , ie HEP. The cab units also had control stands and signals . The work was done 1979 for the F-9s and early 1980s for the F-7s . A fifth unit which was also Baltimore and Ohio , an F-7, was to be road number 623 but I believe the project was never completed.

The railroad practice was to run the cab units at the West end of the train with the traction power at the east end. Traction Power was usually a GP-38 .These units saw service on all of the diesel branches of the railroad East of Jamaica.

At the time that the F-7s appeared , the LIRR colors on the cars were changing from the Blue stripe through the window band to a Blue stripe below the window band. P-72s that were remodeled on the interior for Parlor car service had a red band below the windows instead of Blue.

The LIRR had acquired quite a few long distance cars from railroads who were downgrading or eliminating passenger service prior to Amtrak in the late 1960's. Most of these cars were repainted into the MTA grey and Blues as the MTH premier cars are done in . By 1975 or so, The acquisition of the BUDD M-1s for electric service was sufficient to allow many of the mP72 and worlds fair electric cars to be adapted for use with the "Push Pull" power set up . The long distance cars became surplus and most were scrapped. None were in service when the F-9s and F-7s came into service on the LIRR. The LIRR did not own any F-7B units and of course never operated an F-7 ABA. I recall a fan trip where the power was 2MP-16s powering the train with these two locomotives bracketed by an ALCO FA power sled on one end and an F-7 Power sled  on the other end. There were parlor cars and standard coaches on that train.