MTH 2020 Vol. 2

Given that MTH has left the building until they're allowed to work again, I suspect it's probably not going to happen.  It might, but I wouldn't count on it.

MTH said it would be online on Friday April 24.

Looks like its been pushed back 2 weeks. I have a hunch premier reading T1s are gonna be the catalog...

2 weeks isn’t too bad of a delay. It’s just nice to have something to look forward to!

That sure puts a damper on Virtual York for me.  Oh well.  Back to my lawn work I guess.

Oh, the humanity...

Having to wait an extra two weeks for a peek at products that won't be available for 12, 18, 24 months or longer.

Rusty

I love the Reading Railroad, probably alot more than most, but another T-1? 

Hopefully there will be some other Reading stuff, too.

@M J Breen posted:

Looks like its been pushed back 2 weeks. I have a hunch premier reading T1s are gonna be the catalog...

Wonder why?

I am wondering if they are giving time for stores to reopen so that orders can be taken instead of setting some order deadline where few local shops can participate.

@rdg_fan posted:

I love the Reading Railroad, probably alot more than most, but another T-1? 

Hopefully there will be some other Reading stuff, too.

Agreed! Why following Lionel a lead? Same thing happened with the big boy!

@rdg_fan posted:

I love the Reading Railroad, probably alot more than most, but another T-1? 

Hopefully there will be some other Reading stuff, too.

Same here.  So many other options, including the N1 classes.  But I guess the big boys sold.

Will the Premier freight cars that were not produced in the past year return to the catalog?

Andrew

Maybe they will re-run the impossible to find passenger sets from years back rather than another catalog year of Daylight cars? Hopefully they'll all come thru this healthy and we will see it soon.

As always, I would love to see some new tooling.  For me, new modern power would be great.

• ET44AC units, as far as I can see, would be an easy modification of the ES44 tooling.  But what do I know
• Siemens SC44 Charger, with all the lights.  If Bachmann can get a license for HO, someone else surely can.  I know licenses can be pricey sometimes, but I think I would be a great loco in O-scale.
• SD70AH-T4.  More modification of the SD70AC shell then the ET44 would be of the ES44 shell, but again, worth a try.  With this one, limited roads would be an issue, but the numbers are growing - UP, CSX, BNSF (Demo), Progress Rail (2 paints), and ElectroMotive.  

The top two would sell better, but all three would be worth it.  

I’m hoping the T-1’s have whistle steam added now. I’m probably going to be disappointed, but we shall see!

If there were a Pullman-Standard, Greenville Steel Car, Thrall Car modern era 1970 to 2000 gondola introduced to match the modern locomotives, then things might look better.

Andrew

I like MTH products but their current business model doesn't include any new tooling.  At a time of economic decline like this I don't see any reason to expect anything new than reruns of old tooling with new paint schemes and better detailing. 

I pre-ordered the offset cupola ATSF caboose with the correct graphics to go with my Sunset FTs out of the last catalog.  While I'm not buying a lot these days in 3 rail, who knows what might come out on 3r or 2/3 that I might have missed?

This catalog won't disappoint me. I am not expecting anything from MTH that would be new. I will be on the lookout for things I missed in the past though. So no hurry at all.

That's where I am too.  Being somewhat new to 3-rail, it's still a target rich environment for me.  If it's the right road name, I'm a buyer.

I still can not find a SOO LINE GP30 anywhere on the MTH website.

They were built in 1963 by EMD.

Maybe they can show show love to the C30-7.  They already have a Premier chassis from the U30C. The C30-7 just needs some grab irons, see through grilles and walkway treads.

It would always be nice to get a Scale fuel tank for the forgotten FP45.

I’m hoping for railking R21/22 subways in the correct paint schemes. These haven’t been cataloged since 2000

I'm still hoping the Amtrak Viewliners will be a possibility. But if we are talking subways I'm hoping to see a R1/9 again or hopefully, with fingers crossed, a R44/R46, R68,  R143,  or R160/R179.

Golden gate depot is taking reservations right now for scale Amtrak viewliners. I have the original R1/9, I’ll take a re-run signed up as a AA local to run along my A express. I doubt we will see any new tooling in subways. Maybe modified GOH R32’s. But how many years has it been since the GOH R40 slants we’re announced. Still no delivery date. 

I was looking so forward to this catalog.  I agree with some of the other members that it is going to take an eternity for these new products to actually reach customers.  It typically takes about a year (give or take a few months) to receive new orders to begin with.  I could these cars easily taking 2 years to reach the states. 

@GG1 4877 posted:

I like MTH products but their current business model doesn't include any new tooling.  At a time of economic decline like this I don't see any reason to expect anything new than reruns of old tooling with new paint schemes and better detailing. 

I pre-ordered the offset cupola ATSF caboose with the correct graphics to go with my Sunset FTs out of the last catalog.  While I'm not buying a lot these days in 3 rail, who knows what might come out on 3r or 2/3 that I might have missed?

Yes Jonathan, I am afraid that MTH’s new business model is based on repeats of what they had.  Slight modifications - new a road number here, a new flatcar payload there - are easy to do and easy to make money on.  New tooling is a dream, and I still try to keep that dream alive in the hopes that a new ET44 or SC44 shows up in the catalog.  Even new steam - Strasburg - is still just a dream.

Deep down inside, we all still hope for new stuff.  :-)

I'm with John P. There is a lot of stuff that I missed out on, or could be re-issued in different paint schemes or numbers, or upgraded to PS-3, that I would be glad to get.

Skip the Reading T-1, the Frankenstein monster of steam.  What we need are some GS-4s!!  😂😂😂😂😉😉😉😉

@The Portland Rose posted:

Skip the Reading T-1, the Frankenstein monster of steam.  What we need are some GS-4s!!  😂😂😂😂😉😉😉😉

In Atlantic Coast Line colours!

The PREMIER AIRSLIDE 50' covered hoppers have not yet been produced in all possible railroads and paint scheme variations. They better get more done, since the real cars are being downgraded to buffer car service or even scrapped.

Andrew

I agree! I’ll reserve 1 or 2.

The PREMIER O scale 60' flat car has not yet been produced in the 1960's or 1970's TRAILER TRAIN schemes with HTTX  or OTTX reportingn marks, SOO LINE Colormark Car scheme from the 1960's, and the 1960's GREAT NORTHERN paint schemes.

I wonder if they will have them this year.

Andrew

The Premier PS-1 50' Box Cars have not yet been made for the Grand Trunk Western and the ILLINOIS CENTRAL in the 1960's paint schemes or the Grand Trunk Western and the ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF in the 1970's paint schemes.

That is what they need in the next catalog.

Andrew

I'm ok with repeats. I'd love to see a repeat of a grey/orange LIRR World's Fair era passenger engine. Missed it last go around. Wouldn't say no to a Subway E Train with Trade Center stop. I have the original Proto, would love P3.

I would like to see MTH step up to the plate and run the PRR diecast p-5 boxcabs again. MTH has promised to replace zinc pested shells  from the previous runs of this model. I hope they have not forgot about their loyal customers who own this loco. I have been on MTH's waiting list for a new shell for quite awhile now.

@pdxtrains posted:

I'm ok with repeats. .................. Wouldn't say no to a Subway E Train with Trade Center stop. I have the original Proto, would love P3.

That would be one I might go for.  Would people accept it with the original RK tooling from back then though (if it still exists?)?  Even on the RK models, the details have been ramped up quite a bit since over 20 years ago when these first subway models came out.

-Dave

I wonder if they would make the PREMIER EMD GP9 in all of the Central Vermont schemes.

Will they make the Premier Modern 50' box cars in the Central Vermont schemes?

Andrew

I would like to see a PS-3 run of the Premier Big Blow turbine or Gas turbine. Just got the beautiful coal turbine, I have the PS-3 propane turbine on order, and I have the PS-3 veranda. this would complete my set. Then I would look for a lionel diecast remake of there Veranda.

I've been waiting almost 20 years for a Premier RF&P 4-8-4 from the "Statesmen" series, specifically #618, "James Madison".  I wonder if this will be the year...