@SIRT posted:
Looks like they are stalling for some reason.
It's Mike's company, he can release his catalog whenever he wants...
Rusty
In the virtual York video, Andy Edleman confirmed that the decision to delay the catalog was Mike's. Sounded like Andy wasn't exactly sure why Mike made the decision, so you can ask Mike yourself if you wish. 
. My guess is he was hoping some hobby shops could re-open before the catalog was issued.
I think it goes live tomorrow? Hoping for R21/22 Pullman green subways on the #1 train! A re-issue of the R1’s would be great too!
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I think it goes live tomorrow? Hoping for R21/22 Pullman green subways on the #1 train! A re-issue of the R1’s would be great too!
Be careful what you wish for lol. I'd love an R1 rerun too.
@SIRT posted:
I'm still waiting for the last batch of 2020 V1 items to arrive.
Somethings up?
I'm still waiting on a couple Premier freight cars from 2019 V2.
We’re the R40 subways??????
I am also hoping for R21/22 #1 line in pullman green.
The following was taken directly from an email that MTH sent to its dealers today, May 5th...
2020 Volume 2 O Gauge Catalog To Be Released Online Friday, May 8, 2020
May 5, 2020 - M.T.H. Electric Trains will publish its 2020 Volume 2 O Gauge catalog to the M.T.H. website on Friday, May 8th.
Excellent!
I just want a Seaboard Coast Line GP7 in the "boring" black and yellow livery. Enough of the Purple and Silver...none of us alive can even remember that one. Of course, I may be the only one wanting the GP7.
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:We’re the R40 subways??????
According to MTH on the first video the R40s are supposed to be shipping in June. I am also hoping for an R1 reissue and maybe a Greenbird R21/R22 #6 Pelham Local like the HO version in O scale.
Or maybe, and this is a long shot, a post GOH R32 Brightliner or R44/R46 to go with the R40's.
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@SubwayLover posted:According to MTH on the first video the R40s are supposed to be shipping in June. I am also hoping for an R1 reissue and maybe a Greenbird R21/R22 #6 Pelham Local like the HO version in O scale.
Or maybe, and this is a long shot, a post GOH R32 Brightliner or R44/R46 to go with the R40's.
Glad you like my R32s lol!
@Novabus 5000 posted:
Glad you like my R32s lol!
Are you kidding, those are Awesome!!! The only regret I have about not getting the last set of R32's made by MTH is because I wanted to modify them to make them look like yours. After all those are the Brightliners I'm used to riding and operating for so many years.
The catalog will be released online on Friday May 8th.
Dave
@Carl Peduzzi posted:Yes Jonathan, I am afraid that MTH’s new business model is based on repeats of what they had. Slight modifications - new a road number here, a new flatcar payload there - are easy to do and easy to make money on. New tooling is a dream, and I still try to keep that dream alive in the hopes that a new ET44 or SC44 shows up in the catalog. Even new steam - Strasburg - is still just a dream.
Deep down inside, we all still hope for new stuff. :-)
It's a tough business, and not just because of recent events. I fully understand the risks and reluctance to invest in new tooling. As long as people continue to buy remakes with different paint jobs, there's not a lot of incentive to take the risk on new tooling. However, I will say that my buying has slowed quite a bit due to the lack of new designs, and I wonder how long it will take for others to do the same. Given the long lead times, manufacturers who don't invest in new designs could find themselves with an extended dip in sales if they wait too long.
My dream items are realistic versions of the South Shore interurbans - original, rebuilt, and modern, not just generic items with a South Shore paint job. I don't expect to see it.
@Mallard4468 posted:It's a tough business, and not just because of recent events. I fully understand the risks and reluctance to invest in new tooling. As long as people continue to buy remakes with different paint jobs, there's not a lot of incentive to take the risk on new tooling. However, I will say that my buying has slowed quite a bit due to the lack of new designs, and I wonder how long it will take for others to do the same. Given the long lead times, manufacturers who don't invest in new designs could find themselves with an extended dip in sales if they wait too long.
My dream items are realistic versions of the South Shore interurbans - original, rebuilt, and modern, not just generic items with a South Shore paint job. I don't expect to see it.
Can't see MTH doing accurate South Shore cars with hardly any return on investment when they don't even re-run passenger sets that they could redo at a mere pittance compared to new tooling. Friends have been hoping for a re-run of the North Coast Limited or Canadian National Streamlined cars, instead enough retread Daylight sets they quit looking at the last few catalogs.
Here's what I really wish for: any subway set with a sound file that represents what the conductors actually used to say through the PA during rush hour in the 70s: a frustrated--"Watch the doors!" :-)
That would be great!!! The sounds are way too polite 🤪
Still hoping for a New York Central Premium Pacific with small tender in black they did it in grey.
How about some PRR decapods with whistle steam........
@BobbyD posted:Can't see MTH doing accurate South Shore cars with hardly any return on investment when they don't even re-run passenger sets that they could redo at a mere pittance compared to new tooling. Friends have been hoping for a re-run of the North Coast Limited or Canadian National Streamlined cars, instead enough retread Daylight sets they quit looking at the last few catalogs.
I'm surprised they're still in business.
Food for thought: What's old hat for some, is brand new to those of us who recently got into the O scale game. Every catalog is boring for some and great to others. Personally, DL&W is what catches my eye the most. However, even though everyone seems tired of J's, Daylights, and Big Boys.... I sincerely hope they keep making them. My budget is nowhere near ready to purchase those yet and I do want them someday.
@david1 posted:The catalog will be released online on Friday May 8th.
Dave
It is now 1:19 AM, no Catalog, Lets take a poll when it will pop up. I have 0900.
I'm typing at 2:22 Eastern. I'll say 10:30 am Eastern.
I'll say 10:00am. 
I agree with John, but it would be a bit sneaky if they made us wait until 4:00PM EST and had a YouTube live video where they released it.
my guess is noon eastern time
I'll guess 9:00 AM Eastern. 5:00 PM the latest.
Nice job, Mike!!!! Everyone take a gander.
I am all over the Premier Maine Central F3s!! MTH, take my money now!!
It's such a small thing relative to what's in there but the first thing I thought was, "finally, a green Procor tank car!" I've wanted one of these ever since I saw them during a trip out to Pittsburgh a year or two ago.
Lot of the same stuff from the October catalog...
...been waiting for the Pennsy D-16 and DD-1 locos, both not done since the early-mid 2000s...guess I'll wait some more!
Seriously, it looks like every Railing steamer was in the last one or two catalogs, same with Premier, except the Berks.
Depressing. Maybe the days of completely new/refreshed offerings each catalog are completely over. Look at Williams catalogs. I don't even bother anymore, just the same thing over and over and over. This is NOT a dig on the lack of new tooling. This is a dig on the "copy and paste" nature every MTH catalog has gotten to, at least with steam power. Maybe the market isn't there but it seems every catalog is just a repeat of the past offering.
Nice selection of items, especially the S-2's, but no must haves or items that were requested. I'd have to think about a few items?
I like a lot of stuff in the catalog: Long Island RS-1, Pennsy Premier Crane Cars, and the CSX Spirit of LE cars. I just find it a little weird that their marketing strategy seems to be putting out very popular Steam Engines that have appeared several times over the last few years by both MTH and Lionel. I've always found MTH to be way more diverse in their engine roster than Lionel and I figured they would showcase engines that Lionel does not usually make...like the Pennsy T1 duplex. Overall I think they did a good job.
Catalog after catalog after catalog...…...No premier Penn Central offerings....I was hoping for a E-8 AA in Penn central and also a RS-1. So your reading this thinking no one wants Penn Central...….Well Lionel always seems to sell out of it. Try finding a Lionel Legacy Penn Central e-8 pair. Since I won't buy Lionel anymore, I was hoping MTH would do a set of these. On a VERY POSITIVE NOTE...…. It appears that my zinc pested P5a boxcab shell will get replaced after all. These are listed in the new book. Thank you MTH
Strange, I get nothing but a view of the cover with no clickable links; even when going directly to the MTH website.
If you are a modern Canadian Pacific fan, this could be a _great_ catalog!! Painful $$$, but oh a potential selection.
However.....
CP Heritage (Curl Scroll), the magnificent D-Day in Spitfire camo and invasion strips, the Navy, and the Army/Arid Regions are shown as SD70ACes. They should be SD70ACU which is the CP (and NS) SD90 rebuild program with SD70ACe cabs. Those are much bigger engines than the standard SD70ACe. I suspect the SD90 tooling will be to blame if MTH is taking a shortcut to produce them as presented in this catalog. I don't like being asked to accept the wrong engine in the very desirable new CP paint schemes. That's just not right. MTH made tooling adjustment for the new SD60E in 2016. Why not do it right with the SD90/SD70ACU rather than "rushing" these beauties as shorter SD70ACes?. I would wait if MTH said they would do them right. 
I'm guessing the Air Force and Army Green are likely in the 2021 catalog(s).
The beautiful Washington & Old Dominion 44 tonner is a temptation for those in the DC/NoVA area.
I didn't see anything that I would have to pre-order. The Northern Pacific 44 tonner would be a possibility along with the scale military vehicles.
Turbo trains and Aero trains are back.
Bill
The kodak rs-1 is tempting
