mth POWHATAN ARROW CARS 206514

Can you post a picture of your 611 and the MTH car coupled to the tender?

Ron

No picture!

Well my J is deeply packed away.  But the local toy train shop has an MTH Premier N&W J on display.  It is on a shelf sitting on its flanged wheels.  The top on the rear of the tender measures 3-inches.  I pulled out my MTH N&W Powhatan Arrow "Duke University" dining car.  Also sitting on its wheel flanges it measures 3 1/2-inches high.  That would put the crest of the roof about 1/2-inch or TWO-Scale feet above the rear of the tender.  And from the pictures I have of 611 in excursion service pulling this type of streamliners, my guess the crest is in fact about Two- feet higher than rear of tender.  So everything appears to be copacetic. 

Ron

Sorry for the delay. Just got back from a road trip. Will get a photo out directly...

Here is a photo of my coupled model and an image of the prototype. roof lines look similar but the yellow paint stripe is closer to the top of the tender. Maybe that is what is throwing me off...

loco2124 posted:

Here is a photo of my coupled model and an image of the prototype. roof lines look similar but the yellow paint stripe is closer to the top of the tender. Maybe that is what is throwing me off...

Overall height looks good.

But is that the 611 tender with your passenger car?  I do not recall the yellow grad rail or the ladder looking like that.

Ron

I pulled one of my real RR books out , this on C&O passenger cars with dimensioned drawings.  These car are dimension as 13' 6 3/32" from railhead to crest of streamline cars.  This would be about 3 and 3/8-inches high from railhead.  Pulled the MTH Powhatan "Duke University" car out, set it on a section of straight track.  It measure 3 3/8 inches high.  So appears to be very very close.

Ron

The yellow stripe on the model is lower than the stripe on the real cars. It distort perception of the model.

PRRronbh posted:

loco2124 posted:

Here is a photo of my coupled model and an image of the prototype. roof lines look similar but the yellow paint stripe is closer to the top of the tender. Maybe that is what is throwing me off...

Overall height looks good.

But is that the 611 tender with your passenger car?  I do not recall the yellow grad rail or the ladder looking like that.

Ron

Yes, that is the factory 611 MTH tender. So I guess it IS just my eyeballs.  Thanks Ron for your input

My 61 is packed away.  Here is a shot of the MTH Premier 611 tender on display at local toy train shop.  Pardon the blur, shot freehand low light.  Sure looks different.

Here is a shot of the "Duke University" diner from my the 20-6614 add o set.

Ron

Mine is the older version. Not sure what era. It has the brake cylinder on the trailing truck. I'm sure there were other improvements as well...