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Recently acquired a used MTH SD60 loco. After receiving it I hooked my wall charger to it to make sure the battery was fully charged. Then placed it on the track and turned on my DCS system. Hit the startup and lights came on, loco made a few grunts and groans but no sound. All other functions worked, moves in both directions smoke functions, couplers work. It was a cold day and my shop was cold so I brought the loco inside where it was warm and later took it back out to the track and it worked ok. After using it for a while I placed it back in the box. I took it back out last week to add smoke fluid and service it and when I put it on the track and hit start up, lights come on, smoke comes on, train will move in both directions, BUT no sound again. I did notice that after shut down and the restart I heard the engine idle sound for about 2-3 seconds and then just little crackles and pops. I checked the battery with  a meter and it read 8.75volts. I have a new battery that is charged to 9.51v and switched to the new battery and still get the same results..  Any thoughts

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Originally Posted by GGG:

Inspect the speaker  for flaking.  Can be bad, was known issue for some of those star speakers.  Replacement is BF-33.

 

Other issue is the audio amp.  I have replaced a few on the SD-60/70 engines.

 

How are sounds in conventional?  G

I have tried all the above suggestions and still no sound. The speaker looks to be in ok shape. Any ideas on what it runs to replace the sound on one of these engines?

Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:

Did you trash the old battery before doing the Factory Reset?

Barry

I think that I did do a reset on the old battery before I received the new one and put it in. T\I checked the old battery with the multimeter after the first reset and the battery showed 8.7volts. Next day I received the new battery and charged it up to 9.51, replaced with the new battery and then tried all that was suggested today.

Originally Posted by Gregg:

A feature should over ride the  following but who knows. Go to

Menu/sound/ make sure all the choices are  set high. Scroll to the percent you want and press the thumb wheel to lock it in.  Is the #4 hard key on the remote set to "on".

I pushed the volume on bell horn and engine sounds o 100 percent and the engine sounds key is on.

OK, got it. It sounds like either the speaker or the audio amp is shot.

 

Since as GGG correctly notes, the speakers on the older 5 volt PS2 engines are prone to fail, I'd check that first.

 

If you can disconnect the speaker from the PS2 board, you can connect a meter across the speaker terminals to test continuity. If there's no continuity, replace the speaker. A replacement is about $10 plus shipping from MTH, and the replacement speakers are much improved over the original ones.

 

If there is continuity, the issue is most likely either a disconnected wire between the speaker and the PS2 board, or the audio amp is blown. If its the audio amp, (George) GGG can fix it for you.

Last edited by Barry Broskowitz
Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:

OK, got it. It sounds like either the speaker or the audio amp is shot.

 

Since as GGG correctly notes, the speakers on the older 5 volt PS2 engines are prone to fail, I'd check that first.

 

If you can disconnect the speaker from the PS2 board, you can connect a meter across the speaker terminals to test continuity. If there's no continuity, replace the speaker. A replacement is about $10 plus shipping from MTH, and the replacement speakers are much improved over the original ones.

 

If there is continuity, the issue is most likely either a disconnected wire between the speaker and the PS2 board, or the audio amp is blown. If its the audio amp, (George) GGG can fix it for you.

Barry

I unplugged the 2 speaker wire connector and checked continunity between the ylw and wht wires to the speaker and I got a reading of 150 on the continunity meter setting. I checked the loco again about 5 minutes ago and when pressing startup, the lights came on and you could hear a faint clicking and crackling noise thru the speaker but no definite sounds so it sounds like the sound is out

Originally Posted by NS UP 01:
Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:

OK, got it. It sounds like either the speaker or the audio amp is shot.

 

Since as GGG correctly notes, the speakers on the older 5 volt PS2 engines are prone to fail, I'd check that first.

 

If you can disconnect the speaker from the PS2 board, you can connect a meter across the speaker terminals to test continuity. If there's no continuity, replace the speaker. A replacement is about $10 plus shipping from MTH, and the replacement speakers are much improved over the original ones.

 

If there is continuity, the issue is most likely either a disconnected wire between the speaker and the PS2 board, or the audio amp is blown. If its the audio amp, (George) GGG can fix it for you.

Barry

I unplugged the 2 speaker wire connector and checked continunity between the ylw and wht wires to the speaker and I got a reading of 150 on the continunity meter setting. I checked the loco again about 5 minutes ago and when pressing startup, the lights came on and you could hear a faint clicking and crackling noise thru the speaker but no definite sounds so it sounds like the sound is out

Barry

I just checked the actual terminals on the speaker and there seems to be a problem. Sometime I get a reading and then nothing. It comes and goes with the meter probes on the actual speaker terminals. Sometime touching the terminals you can hear a faint rasp from the speaker but no reading on the meter, then again it will show a reading.

Sounds like another ebay nightmare.  NS UP, you did the correct thing in putting your engine on charge.  I hope you did not give it a try before you put it on charge.  If you did and the battery was low, you cooked the audio amp.  If you did not, the guy who sold it to you tried to run it and he cooked it.`The guys are right about the speaker.  I buy them in big amounts and change the speaker when I put in a new green battery.

 

A new green battery or BCR should be put in any engine when you first get it if it has age and the dreaded 5 volt board. 

 

DO NOT CHARGE THE WHITE BATTERY, THEY ARE OLD AND NEED TO BE THROWN AWAY.

Last edited by Marty Fitzhenry

I received the new speaker today and installed it put a BCR in and charged 1 minute and she fired up just like a brand new one. Purrs like a kitten. Thanks to all the train Pros for all your help and info. I have switched all 10 locomotives to BCR's. As I was removing the old speaker I checked the ohms for the old and new, the new was 16 and the old 52 , not good.

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