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I just bought a left and a right switch from Menards and there are some issues:

1. Size.

I have always wondered why Lionel made their O72 switches 14-5/16" long on the straight side. Now I must wonder why Menards has chosen 14-1/16" for 2 rails of the straight section and 14-1/8" for the third, inside rail?


2. Funky looking controller that vaguely looks like a steam engine.

It has a 3' cord and a 6' extension. There are 4 wires in the cord. Are they planning more functionality in the future? To me the question is why 2 push buttons instead of a single toggle switch with center off? What can go wrong when my grandchildren push both push buttons simultaneously?

3. Potential derailment at the Frog.

The guide rails at the Frog are either too short or positioned wrong. If a truck is just slightly askew, the wheel can take the wrong path through the Frog.

4. The rail section that signals to throw the switch dips when it meets the frog and causes a sudden jump for the wheels.


5. Gap when the switch is thrown for the curve.

Both the left and the right switch does fine going straight, but they both have a gap when thrown for the curve. Maybe the connecting rod needs to be a fraction longer.

6. Switch motor is not reversible.

It appears that the switch motor is not reversible. But a clever modeler should be able to make it work, maybe? It should not be difficult for Menards to modify this in the future.


Overall, these look like great switches in the making.

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Last edited by John in California
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@CALNNC posted:

Thanks for your photos and info.  One of the bigger question brought up was if they could be powered separately from track power.  Any evidence so far that a modification could be done for that function?

We modelers are a clever group and I suspect some of us will find a way to power it without center rail power. I have not yet taken the switch apart so I don't know how difficult it will be.

The suggestions to Menards for tweaks to the O72 switch are helpful, and I hope they will implement them in subsequent products.  Surely additional curvatures will be forthcoming:  O6O, O42, O31.  The kid-friendly switch controller should have indicator LEDs.

Every  suggested charge would likely cause an increase in the price.

Mike Mottler    LCCA 12394

I would prefer O36 vs. O31. It would go with their O36 curves.

Steve

We modelers are a clever group and I suspect some of us will find a way to power it without center rail power. I have not yet taken the switch apart so I don't know how difficult it will be.

It appears that the base is screwed on. Half the battle. I was concerned it would be riveted. Frogs - oy. Some of the latter O31 switches, made by Lionel, had a problem in this area. I wonder what issue is with frogs (used on switches)? The point not sliding up completely against the rail - again, a problem with the late model Lionel tubular switches. I know the <manufacturer name here> try to keep costs down, but these seem to be areas of constant sorrow. And if I haven’t mentioned it, 😊, I’d prefer O36 switches over O31. Menards curves are O36.

Steve

It appears that the base is screwed on. Half the battle. I was concerned it would be riveted. Frogs - oy. Some of the latter O31 switches, made by Lionel, had a problem in this area. I wonder what issue is with frogs (used on switches)? The point not sliding up completely against the rail - again, a problem with the late model Lionel tubular switches. I know the <manufacturer name here> try to keep costs down, but these seem to be areas of constant sorrow. And if I haven’t mentioned it, 😊, I’d prefer O36 switches over O31. Menards curves are O36.

Steve

Menards also sells a lot of O-31 curves, at least to us.  I've seen tubular curves in Menards stores ranging from O-31--O-42, and perhaps bigger.

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