My US Army Train Just got Longer . . . . $1,350 Longer

Scrapiron Scher posted:

... so I can run both trains on the layout. Layout? What layout? Layout? Whose talking about a layout? 

You, of course have a standing invitation to run on the River City 3 Railer modular layout. With the friends you have here on the forum, finding a layout to run on should be the least of your concerns.

Those are some seriously good looking cars.....

I warned you but you didn't listen. 

Mike

NIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!!!!  I can see where the $1,350 went.

Rick

I see the pullman hospital cars listed in the newsletter as part of the "Newest Announcment" section, but cannot seem to find a price or place to reserve on the website.  

Anyone have more information?  

Thanks. 

DLC

DLC posted:

... cannot seem to find a price or place to reserve on the website.  

Anyone have more information?  

...

 

 

Follow THIS LINK for info... then click on the RESERVE NOW link to place your bets... uhhh I mean orders.   Looks like we're talking $450 PER car for all-brass construction!!!    Oh dear... I think 2016 will coin a new acronym for our toy train prices, namely TTFR.  Through The F(do-you-really-need-to-ask) Roof.  Even retired guys with healthy 401K's working for them are gonna be digging deep for these puppies!  

David

The cars are brass so they are on the 3rd Rail site and not Golden Gate.  Here's the link to the reservation page.

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.htm

I wonder if the communications car is the same as the one which ran with FDR and the Ferdinand Magellan?

Jan

Scrapiron Scher

I though you got out of this hobby??

Out of the hobby? Out of the hobby? Whose talkin' out of the hobby? Playoffs? Playoffs?

SCRAPIRON SCHER,

    Now those are my kind of Military Cars, someday if I save my pennies I might be able to own one!  Have fun with your new serious Military rolling stock.

PCRR/Dave

SCRAPIRON SCHER,

Sorry, last I knew you took down your layout and sold off your trans.

$1350 longer?  After dogging another post about perceptions of the value of toy trains?  $1350 better buy a lot of toy trucks, and soldiers, and rifles and ammo, and belt buckles and chin straps, hand grenades and hopefully,  beer. The list goes on and on...

My Marines Missile Launch set fires live rounds with deadly accuracy when within 6 feet of target.  If I told you how my Marines can get that close to complete the mission, I would have to kill you,  or someone to be named later, and I really don't need that on my conscience right now.  Is that a threat?  Heck no.  Nor is it a promise.  Nothing is promised to a man who models war.  He must model, or he will die.. 

Peace out.

Well, William . . . I'll have the hospital car so maybe they can stich me up. There will be quite a bit of firepower on my train,  so the army will be ready. No terrorists will make it to the barracks. That's for sure.

Scrapiron

Gorgeous cars!

Peter

The plan is that the communications car is appropriate for running with the Ferdinand Magellan observation car that was imported by Overland Models.

David, thanks for the information.  Placed my reservations.  

WOW!  Those are gorgeous!  Are you going to put the HEMITT and other trucks on flats?  That's going to be a truly incredible military train for sure!  Can wait to see a video of it in action!

John,

Yes, the HEMTT trucks, some tan, some camouflaged will be on flat cars. The HET 1070 hauler will have to be separated into two parts. Truck on one car and trailer on a second car. All of those are incredibly detailed by SWORD. I just received two SWORD Abrams M1a last night and they are also amazingly detailed. I am working on six flats right now and I will post them as soon as they are completed.

Elliot, where do you source the SWORD products?  

DLC,

The SWORD military items are long out of production. You can cruise the auction site, but that is bout it. I found the 985's at auction with a "Buy It Now" that was reasonable. The 1070 set me back quite a bit. They are almost impossible under $550. As with most things train related, I got a bit carried away. Good luck.

You prototype eras are all over the map (the hospital cars are no later than the 50s and the wheeled vehicles are current ones), but I applaud the quality of the models you're getting. I know that HET model alone is about $300 or so (I looked into one for a display on a shelf, as I'd ridden in plenty of them in my Army days).

I still have my rail load TMs from the Army, if you want guidance in how to model them correctly blocked and ratcheted down on the flatcars...

Very impressive. 

Thankfully I am not tempted by military items so I can look at this and just admire it, with no wallet-threat in sight. I find so many temptations in this hobby - at least I don't have this one!

Brass rolling stock is really sweet.

Lee,

You are absolutely correct. My US army military trains are ALL over the map. Different eras and, really, different everything. My problem is that I love all of it so I will call it a US army museum train that will tour the USA for the purpose of supporting the troops and raising awareness of our debt of gratitude to our veterans. I know of no other way to explain this very eclectic mixture. 

Thanks for your offer of info and support and I promise to take you up on it. I really do appreciate the expertise of those who know all about this. I claim to be a "know nothing" about military trains and equipment but that is the fun of learning for me. Prototypical. Of course not. Fun to look at? You betcha !

It will be interesting to see how these cars come along and how a consist will develop with them in train.  I do not think that it would be  a prototype to include them with flats of armor due to the speed issue.  Perhaps a single communications car,a surgical car and a number of hospital cars would be ideal,say five of them.  You could be looking at a $3000 lineup here.  Whoa.

Norm

Norm

Norm,

   Like I said before I would need to save my pennies, in this case $10.00 bills to be able to get in on this deal, ScrapIron's idea of nice military rolling stock is a might on the expensive side!

PCRR/Dave

Elliot, Thanks for the info on the SWORD items.   I purchased weaver troop cars from you last January.  I'm trying to buildout a WWII millitary theme train.  In addition to yours, I have acquired the MTH Sherman Tank cars, two weaver US army medical supply trailers on flat cars, and two weaver ps-1 40' US army box cars.    I have my fingers crossed that Atlas steps up a produces more troop cars with the weaver tooling.  

DLC,

Speaking to one of the very nice Atlas O folks in York leads me to believe that Atlas O will surely produce the troop cars. He seemed quite interested in my military train ideas but I did not reveal to him how little I know. We'll have to put in some research time. 

With regard to military trains, there is precious little produced in O that is considered scale and prototypical if that word applies. As P51 (Lee) has pointed out, the different equipment we often see on flat cars as loads are often from different eras and, when mixed together, do not represent an accurate train for the period. Of course, if your goal is to create a visual delight and "just have fun," which is my goal right now, go have fun.

When I see O scale trains with military loads I always think it is cool to look at and I never bind myself to accuracy for history's sake. Some folks will criticize that but it does not bother me. Have fun.

I will, when opportunity presents itself, try to model individual cars as accurately as I can given the materials, skills, and time available to me.

Scrapiron

Scrapiron,

You are right about the most important aspect of this project...have fun with it.  Buy what you like, like what you buy.  I, myself have some military cars, but because of the difference in scales, 1/43 & 1/48, 1/50 have separated the two.  Also, I run the WW2 & Korea on RR road names, the Vietnam era and modern on US ARMY  - DOD (Weaver) flat cars. So keep on rolling and have FUN!

I like the idea of the museum train, I'd forgotten I'd read about that on a previous thread. Great idea and it gives you good cause to put pretty much anything you want on it. Again, you're picking really good quality stuff!

I've seen Andy O's and he does beautiful work.

I think you should post some pictures of the entire train or trains.  I would certainly like to see them.   As for $$,  I haven't seen very many people take it with them, so enjoy what you like.  If you are retired then you get more time to enjoy them.  As for being correct, I was enjoying a layout I visited on Sunday afternoon, when it suddenly occurred to me that I needed to check the numbers on the cars and see if there were any duplicates.  I have seen those same cars run 3 times this year and never once cared about the duplicate numbers until reading about that aspect here on OGR.  ( so yeah there were some duplicates, but I quickly gathered myself and resumed enjoying seeing the trains run)

They are beautiful cars and I hope they get made.  With a daughter in college, they are outside of my price range at the current time, however.  There is money in the train budget for a couple more of the Weaver (now Atlas) troop cars if they are made.

While you might see passenger cars (maybe troop cars) in a train along with flats for equipment (thinking about army training before deployment), I don't think you would fine hospital cars mixed in with other cars, like flat cars or boxcars.  I don't know a lot about the subject, but I thought the hospital cars were primarily dedicated trains to transport patients from one point to another.

Jim

Elliot,

    Here are some videos of my Military Train at the Black Diamond Society of Model Engineers open house in Bethlehem Pa:

Legacy B6 brings out back portion of train:

Here is the full train pulled by a Lionel TMCC PRR Y3 and a Lionel TMCC PRR J1:

JohnB

Scrapiron Scher posted:

John,

Yes, the HEMTT trucks, some tan, some camouflaged will be on flat cars. The HET 1070 hauler will have to be separated into two parts. Truck on one car and trailer on a second car. All of those are incredibly detailed by SWORD. I just received two SWORD Abrams M1a last night and they are also amazingly detailed. I am working on six flats right now and I will post them as soon as they are completed.

If you get some of the Atlas-O DODX 89 ft and/or 68 ft flat cars you will not have to break up the tractor lowboy combination.   They should be here by ( I Hope ) 2nd quarter 2016.   I have 4 Patriot missile model kits to build that will go on my DODX flat cars.     Enjoy your military cars when they come in as they look gorgeous!