Need a Mechanical Parts Diagram for a Premier ALCO S2- (20-2793-3) Parts Ordered 6/29

What exactly are you looking for?  If you have motors, and the trucks are mounted, the motor mounts are there.  I see the side frames are there as well.  It's basically a stripped chassis, that's what I typically start with for many upgrades.

I think it's mostly the idler and worm gears, shafts, and mounting hardware. I can post some pix later of exactly what I have. I just don't want to miss anything when I place a parts order (like the speaker).

Thanks

PS- I'll be needing some ERR boards eventually too...

I'm confused.  Are you saying those trucks come apart and you can install an idler gear?  I would think you'd need a new truck with all the gears if they're missing gears.  Have you looked for parts for the matching powered unit, 20-2793-1?

I've tried searching for any related engines and have come up empty. Even google searches.

I haven't taken what I have apart but I assumed that the side frames are removable and the gears can be pressed onto the frame. NO?

I'll dig into it and show you what I have.

Thanks John.

I don't have a similar engine to look at, but most diesels have a captive worm gear that would be very hard to install.  However, the pictures of the truck bottom in the manual at least suggest this might be one of the models that had the capability to have hi-rail or scale wheels.  In that case, it might be possible to access the gears without major surgery.

You continue to amaze John. I noticed that the bottom of the tank has a pair of spaces for switches for 3R/2R operation.

So I'm actually in better shape than I thought. I had purchased a S2 parts lot from a forum member over the winter. I have the motors, and I thought only one truck (he said the 2nd was for a Lionel engine). Looks like both are MTH trucks, complete with all gearing, and I was able to mount the motors and install them into the frame.
The rear truck is slightly different and the side frame and rear pilot mounting holes don't line up. I think that this can be overcome with some drilling and tapping new holes.

I will need (2) pick up rollers, the plastic cup it sits in, and the hardware required to put it all together.
Looks like there is a small plastic insulator that both the power and common wires attach to as well.
New front and rear electro-couplers will have to come from Lionel (compatible with ERR).

Take a look at the following pix.

Bob

Those are bog-standard pickup roller provisions, you can get that stuff from MTH parts.

I was going to suggest checking this document, but looking at its table of contents the S2 isn't there:

Here's the link for anyone needing a parts list for what is listed in the TOC:

     2015 Premier Diesel & Electric Locomotive Parts Guide, First Edition (2015) | MTH Electric Trains

Mike

@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:

I was going to suggest checking this document, but looking at its table of contents the S2 isn't there:

I checked that one before I posted.

@Mellow Hudson Mike posted:

I was going to suggest checking this document, but looking at its table of contents the S2 isn't there:

Here's the link for anyone needing a parts list for what is listed in the TOC:

     2015 Premier Diesel & Electric Locomotive Parts Guide, First Edition (2015) | MTH Electric Trains

Mike

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

I checked that one before I posted.

Thanks guys.
Looks like the GP trucks are the same. I can pull the part numbers now and get the order in.

Bob

You might have to adlib on the exact rollers, I found that the ones I was looking for to equip some E8 dummy trucks weren't available, so I found similar ones that worked.  The other parts are more standard.

Parts / units on that site was never completed as MTH closed. No S2 as with many other units. It had the potential to be great.

@SIRT posted:

Parts / units on that site was never completed as MTH closed. No S2 as with many other units. It had the potential to be great.

I purchased both from Cabin Fever at the end of the MTH warehouse clearance. They are going to be nice when I'm done.

Hopefully.......

Bob

Placed the order with MTH for the remaining parts I need. I hope I didn't miss anything.

Thanks to @gunrunnerjohn and @Mellow Hudson Mike  for the leads and parts lists.

Searching MTH parts site is #$%!!! frustrating to say the least.

Bob

@RSJB18 posted:

Placed the order with MTH for the remaining parts I need. I hope I didn't miss anything.

Thanks to @gunrunnerjohn and @Mellow Hudson Mike  for the leads and parts lists.

Searching MTH parts site is #$%!!! frustrating to say the least.

Bob

The old MTH parts ordering was far worse than the situation is now!!!  Not saying the new site is perfect, but you can now tell if a item is in stock, the price, and you will get it fairly quick.  I'm thrilled with the progress MTH parts has made in the recent, versus the past.

Jim

@Jim Sandman posted:

The old MTH parts ordering was far worse than the situation is now!!!  Not saying the new site is perfect, but you can now tell if a item is in stock, the price, and you will get it fairly quick.  I'm thrilled with the progress MTH parts has made in the recent, versus the past.

Jim

Agreed. Just looking at the number of parts I needed to complete a couple of diesel trucks, it's a monumental task to get each nut, bolt, screw, etc listed on the site.

The order shipped within an hour of my placing it too!

Bob

I always have to pause before hitting the order button, I have to wonder if I can get upstairs fast enough to answer the door for the delivery of the parts!

FWIW, the last few orders from Lionel have been MUCH faster as well.  Not quite MTH fast, but within a few days, they're shipping them.  I was waiting a month around the first of the year.

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

I always have to pause before hitting the order button, I have to wonder if I can get upstairs fast enough to answer the door for the delivery of the parts!

FWIW, the last few orders from Lionel have been MUCH faster as well.  Not quite MTH fast, but within a few days, they're shipping them.  I was waiting a month around the first of the year.

Maryland to Pennsylvania deliveries could be done from a rocket launcher...... Throw a parachute on the box and you could have deliveries show up on your front porch in minutes......

I'm a little further north up on Long Island so it's not quite that fast but I'm impressed with the fast turnaround.