Is it the same tool as the 1989 version? Which was a refreshed prewar tool right?
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Looks more like the K-Line Tooling.
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These appear to be based off the kline scale version from the early 2000's which was a great loco.
This one will have the additions of fan driven smoke and legacy speed control I assume
These appear to be based off the kline scale version from the early 2000's which was a great loco.
This one will have the additions of fan driven smoke and legacy speed control I assume
K-line B6.
Nice tooling and detail, IMO. These did have TMCC control and could be upgrade to EOB speed control with a drop-in board. My only problem was the motor, maybe too small. I had to replace the motor.
I am on the fence for this one.
Mike,I always enjoy seeing pictures of your layout.
Norm
At this point ( other than the fact no one from Lionel has come out and said it) its fair to say Lionel has gotten access to K Lines scale steamer tooling.
Other K Line "tooled" Legacy offerings to this point:
Light Mikado
Shay
K4
A1 Berkshire
The drivers ( and possibly other details) on the VL hudson are the K Line J1e tooling
I believe some of the conventional offerings are of K Line origin as well i.e. 0-4-0
I may have missed something.
Additionally, Lionel has adopted K Lines chassis/gearbox with the secondary reduction gear on most if not all of their non-articulated locos.
Traditional Lionel steamer gearboxes have just the worm on the motor shaft turning the drive axle gear. K Line had/has an additional shaft in the gearbox with another gear between the worm and axle. I imagine this offers greater low speed performance and possibly more pulling power from a smaller motor when necessary.
You can see the end of this shaft spinning behind the drive wheel of the driven axle on newer legacy steamers.
Yes, Legacy versions of K Line stuff are much more expensive, but its beats the fantastic K Line tooling ending up in a dumpster or something.
Makes one wonder if we'll see a Lionmaster " K Line tooled" allegheny.
Or a Legacy "K line tooled" J1e hudson, one that would surely crush the current MSRP or higher resale value of the not so accurate/detailed VL hudson.
Just curious why some think the drivers on the VL Hudson are derived from K-Line tooling? They look like from the previous (LTI) Lionel 1-700E to me.
